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For Grading - 1881 Indian Head Cent

 
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 Posted 05/26/2022  7:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add HumblePie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would like to hear some thoughts on where this Cent could Grade. Minimal luster left. It is a Snow-8 Variety (missing ribbons) that is why the reverse looks a little bare.





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 Posted 05/26/2022  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm at EF-45 on this one.
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 Posted 05/26/2022  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just not my kind of 45 . I'm at EF-40 .

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 Posted 05/26/2022  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
40 seems about right. Nice original look.
Was this variety the result of an over-polished die?
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 Posted 05/27/2022  07:13 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks like that obverse was not well struck.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HumblePie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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40 seems about right. Nice original look.
Was this variety the result of an over-polished die?



Here is the description on https://www.indianvarieties.com/

"Very rare variety; it may not have started service with the ribbon ends missing."

Here is a direct link to the variety - https://www.indianvarieties.com/cen...881-odd-001/
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going with the obverse on this one. XF45. reverse is closer to 40 but some of this could be from the die or strike as I'm not familiar with the variety
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 Posted 05/27/2022  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
40. Yes, that is in fact a scarce variety. I have one of my own in worse shape. The bizarre ribbon is something you can't miss once you know to look for it.

I suspect the reverse die was cut too shallow.

I think that it would benefit from careful conservation to "de-gunk" it.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say 45 based on wear but I'd knock it down to 40 due to some of the visible "gunk". If that cleans up with some acetone I think a solid 45.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can never understand why some collectors will show photos of their coins that are full of gunk in between the letters and numbers when a simple home conservation is fairly easy to do . Starting off with a distilled water soak ,then an acetone soak . Use tooth pic , Q-tip or porcupine quill while coin is still in acetone . Give it a few more dips in clean fresh acetone . You can use Verdi-Care at this time for finishing touches of entire coin , make sure coin is dry before you put it into a 2x2 holder , I found out about that the hard way .

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 Posted 06/03/2022  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
T-bop a toothpick especially a dry one sharp and not flattend/pulverised/softened in VerdiCare or coin care can cut right into the natural patina and leave little white worm wiggles noticeably against that yellow tan background. I ruined several nice Indian cents trying to get all the crud out. With a loop it was obvious the digging around very gently.. Myself I just use multiple acetone soaks and water or avoid crusty indians from the get go.
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 Posted 06/06/2022  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lots EF-40 to me.
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