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1878 Philly Morgan Need Advice For Grade

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 Posted 05/27/2022  04:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all...
Need advice please.

This image belong to seller.
Hope this authentic Morgan.

Still learning to read the VAM.

Thank you in advance.





Regard,
Solo
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05/27/2022 05:21 am
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 Posted 05/27/2022  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting with the eagle claws, it look have 4th claws.
And strange line in her eyes.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Here is links that might be helpful to you: http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/Home
https://www.PCGS.com/photograde/
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 Posted 05/27/2022  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a long center arrow nock which makes it a B/A or B1 reverse type.
This one happens to be a B/A reverse 7/0 tail feathers VAM-30. http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...878-P_VAM-30
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 Posted 05/27/2022  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you John1 on the way to the site.


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It's a long center arrow nock which makes it a B/A or B1 reverse type.
This one happens to be a B/A reverse 7/0 tail feathers VAM-30. http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...878-P_VAM-30

Many thanks dave700x
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 Posted 05/27/2022  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks again...
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05/27/2022 10:09 am
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Underlying 8 tail feather design shifted left with four talons on left and right shifted left by width of one toe, extra toe at left of eagle's left foot,


Taken from the VAM-30 reverse die description. This would be viewers left of eagle's left foot.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks dave700x it is aplly to 7 tf also?
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
from a grading standpoint these photos are are pretty pathetic. either the photos were manipulated to hide the surfaces or the surfaces have been stripped off on both sides. the coin could be AU58 or maybe as high as MS63 and a details designation is highly possible
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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from a grading standpoint these photos are are pretty pathetic. either the photos were manipulated to hide the surfaces or the surfaces have been stripped off on both sides. the coin could be AU58 or maybe as high as MS63 and a details designation is highly possible


is it offer for $100. I had a plan to add her to my collection. what do you think?

Thank you for your advice Panzaldi.
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05/27/2022 10:29 am
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all advices, appreciate.
I think it's clear, this Morgan is Vam-30.

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 Posted 05/27/2022  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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thanks dave700x it is aplly to 7 tf also?


The "Underlying 8 tail feather design" refers to all of the reverse die design elements not just the number of tail feathers. The 8tf reverse design was modified with the 7tf reverse design and some of the 8tf design elements remained. The extra toe is from the 8tf design.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i see...
Thank you very much dave700x, you're the man!

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 Posted 05/28/2022  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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is it offer for $100. I had a plan to add her to my collection. what do you think?


$100 would be full retail for a non-problem coin in AU58.

i would pass on this one. its the most available of 87's. you can do better and without decent photos of both sides if it's less than 58 you would be overpaying for it. you have no idea what these photos are hiding.
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 Posted 05/28/2022  09:39 am  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spike Eye!

Need better photos as stated but looks AU details/cleaned or way overdipped. $100 is way too much, it is a popular VAM but not a particularly rare one, and you can buy problem-free Unc slabbed examples of the same VAM for $150 or less.
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