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 Posted 06/22/2022  05:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add davidc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
purchased around 6 coins in a job lot need help with id , hopefully not fakes , thanks in advance for any help dave 12g 27mm dia

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 Posted 06/22/2022  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps an Ekbatana issue of Seleukos I Nikator. The anchor and monogram match, and perhaps it's meant to be ΣΕΛΕΥΚΟΥ reverse right.

Sadly, has the soapy look of many cast fakes.
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 Posted 06/22/2022  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
12 grams sounds way too light for a genuine tetradrachm of Seleucus I. I'd have to agree, fake, sorry.
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 Posted 06/22/2022  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
30% too light to be authentic
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 Posted 06/22/2022  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@david, yes looks cast to me too. It would be nice though if you could add a pic or two of the edge so that we can look for a parting line. Hopefully you can return this to the seller.
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 Posted 06/23/2022  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davidc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for your replies , had them for a while , purchased from a private seller on ebay , ripped off again , but I have had some good buys over the years . added some edge pictures thanks again dave

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 Posted 06/23/2022  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok yes it is rather disappointing to find out you've bought a fake—it has happened to me and most of us here I'd wager. Moving forward, you may want to purchase your ancients at shops on ma-shops.com or vcoins.com rather than eBay. I'm sure @sap could recommend some local ANZ dealers as well.

Thank you for adding the edge pics. I'm not seeing a parting line, but rather metal removal so the manufacturer seems to have sanded down the edge to obscure the method of manufacture.
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 Posted 06/24/2022  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd recommend against purchasing "job lots" of ancients, especially if they're unidentified. Such lots are almost always either tourist accumulations (all the "ancient coins" for sale in tourist traps like Ephesus are fakes), or a portal for actual fake-makers. And I'd recommend against eBay generally, as far too many fake-sellers get away with it on eBay. There are also other shysters; there's one British eBay seller who will remain nameless; half what he sells are fake, the other half are genuine but common coins that are over-hyped and (falsely) claimed to be valuable rarities.

There are good local sources of ancients in Australia. Romanorum is the ancients specialist I've spent the most money with, myself; they have a mail-order catalogue/website and also attend most of the larger coin shows like ANDA. The bigger big-city dealers like IS Wright and Colonial usually have a good stock of ancients. Smaller dealers are usually hit-and-miss; they sell what they get in, but aren't necessarily experts in identifying fakes.

For overseas dealers, I've frequently bought from FORVM and from Civitas Galleries, both of which specialize in ancient/mediaeval coins.
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