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1862 IHC Top Prize For Worst Planchet Defect, And Is It Double-Struck In Collar?

 
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 Posted 07/18/2022  10:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is an 1862 Indian Head cent, struck on a planchet with a huge lamination fault as seen. What are also seen are a letter "S" (which has a serif) just to the left of the O, and the neck pearls are in a line just opposite the eye... we know that it was struck like this, due to the incomplete denticles from 11:00-2:00 obverse... any ideas?



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 Posted 07/18/2022  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, but it gets top prize for ugliest Indian Head cent!


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 Posted 07/18/2022  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you enlarge the full obverse pic so we can see the details of the fault better?



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 Posted 07/18/2022  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fault curls on the edge, under the denticles to the left, and sort-of lifts the bottom left side of the coin-accounting for the weakly struck denticles at the top I'd think... you will also see a line of lamination from the field, across the nose. A little bit of that is peeling off

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 Posted 07/18/2022  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

As beat up as that poor Indian is, I am not sure this was not just an old, deep gouge that got darkened/colored with age.
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 Posted 07/18/2022  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were a gouge, how would you do it? Copper-Nickel is a very hard alloy, and there isn't any furrowed metal (plus there are the little strips of lamination near it). The edge is undisturbed save for the tiny crack, so it wasn't a "Whack job"
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 Posted 07/18/2022  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Things happen to coins....
Normal coin that is damaged.
I advise you to research the term "delamination error".
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 Posted 07/18/2022  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jbuck: Thank You!
JTCC: Oddly, years ago I had a small collection of "bad planchet" Large and Half Cents... that's why I like this one. The edge is cracked where the fault stops, goes under some of the denticles to the left and lifts them. I'll try for better pics
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 Posted 07/18/2022  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look like a typical lam. Possibly a defective planchet to begin with?
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 Posted 07/21/2022  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a picture of the edge from (186)2 up to S1 in STATES. I'll post some interesting pics of the obverse soon... there is a row of 6 dots in front of the eyes. a row of fat dots higher up on the neck, a "S" that appears before O(F), a few weirdly mis-shaped feathers-you can see all this on the first pic...
It's not bent
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 Posted 07/23/2022  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edge picture is out of focus, but I believe it could be a cracked planchet.
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