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Possible Counterfeit Items /Seller On Ebay

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 Posted 08/02/2022  7:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cdngmt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi
Could Bobby check this?

Yesterday and today these 2 items both with the same PCGS # were offered by the same seller
eBay item number:255655566189.....
PCGS cert# 207444.53/CERT VERIFICATION #84960358
Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.
1911-B China Hong Kong UK Great Britain Silver Trade dollar PCGS AU53
Condition: --
Ended: Aug 01, 2022, 10:05:03 PM EDT
Price: US $36.99 (approx C $47.40)


and today
eBay item number:255657248842
.PCGS cert# 207444.53/CERT VERIFICATION #84960358
1911-B China Hong Kong UK Great Britain Silver Trade dollar PCGS AU53
Condition:
--not specified
Time left:Time left:2h 45m 6s | Today 21:27
Current bid:
US $26.00
Approximately C $33.32
Bid Amount
Bid Amount
Enter US $27.00 or more
[ 12 bids ]


The certification number is a real number (seems correct) but probably spoofed

There are other (supposedly ) PCGS items but I didn't check them that closely

Thanks
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 Posted 08/02/2022  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are certainly fake PCGS slabs.

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 Posted 08/02/2022  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, slabs does not appear genuine.
Shipped from China too, red flag.
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 Posted 08/02/2022  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw all the coins they posted. 90% are fake or copy how you want to say. The slabs also, and I will give here a hint (small) Right side the label is white, not printed.
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 Posted 08/03/2022  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255660395390
VERIFICATION #84960358 again., PCGS AU53 again.... pretty obvious your answer.


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 Posted 08/04/2022  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buyer beware for sure.
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 Posted 08/05/2022  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got off the phone to Ebay and let them know the people on our forum noticed the fake coins for sale. Showed her the id numbers for coins sold and the seller now selling the same fake coin on ebay. She just sent him notification. Let's see if he stops the auction.

New message to: tianxiayuyuan999 (784PURPLE_STAR Star)
Please stop the auction for your sake.The coin is fake. I am trying to help you..There are several of these coins that are for sale with same PCGS number.Please stop.This coin with the PCGS has been sold several times on ebay. Please look and stop the auction.
Look how nice this one is that sold with your same PCGS number.

1911 China.HONG KONG. British Trade dollar Silver Coin PCGS AU53


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Edited by SaturnD51
08/05/2022 4:10 pm
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 Posted 08/05/2022  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect if he's selling multiple coins in fake slabs with the exact same cert number on the slabs, he already knows they are fake. I doubt he's going to think you're doing him a favor.
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 Posted 08/05/2022  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Please stop the auction for your sake.The coin is fake.


He knows it.
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 Posted 08/05/2022  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only way to be stop it is the Chinese authorities will be informed. In China the copies are OK to be produce, BUT NOT EXPORTED. The penalty is 20 years and hole family members loose theirs proprieties. they do no joke with. Me I am afraid this guy show from China, but it is in Philippines or Malesia. I can 't trace his IP.
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 Posted 08/05/2022  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And yet the seller is still there...plying his fake antiquities.
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 Posted 08/05/2022  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The message I posted was the message Ebay sent to the seller. I hope this guy realizes Ebay is on to him.I see another seller based out of China is selling this coin too. Omg. These sellers show be gone. How does a person protect against a PCGS graded coin. I guess only buy from big Ebay sellers.
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 Posted 08/05/2022  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The PCGS has a office in China, and worst in California majority of employees are from. 1 Year after they open in China the market has been flued with fake slabs and stickers (all manufactured in China in Shanghai). the PCGS do not take steps for, just post on Web about some fake. The main money for them comes from. I worked against the copies, fake and etc. and stop to be in service for PCGS from 3 years ago. I never buy an coin with PCGS slab. I thing Not buying theirs slabs, and not send for grad, will make them to move against.

At the base it is not a bad company, but now is infiltrated by those junks.
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08/05/2022 6:30 pm
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 Posted 08/05/2022  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know but if I was PCGS I would consider putting money into trying to tackle the fakes on the market. Maybe they won't do anything till they start seeing their popularity decline and people stop paying for their slabs. There has to be a way to make it where they can't counterfeit their slab technology.
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 Posted 08/06/2022  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoffeeTime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure he knows it's a fake.

It's interesting there are faked hologram stickers. It would be easy for PCGS to note a coin has counterfeits on the site if someone looked it up.
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 Posted 08/06/2022  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is so sad is that I watch the drug smuggling programs about what is coming into the airports throughout the world. The drugs and money they are catching being smuggled in from China. Millions of dollars of fake money checks and bank checks. Just unbelievable what they are catching of all the fake items being counterfeited in China and sent her. I saw the coins one time they stopped being shipped in. Now it makes me wonder how many coins are making it in. The profit margin must be high that's why it is done. Seems safer than sending in drugs. Why not coins because the prices are up there.Omg when does it ever stop or someone gets a handle on it. Getting to the point I have to start re-educating myself on spotting counterfeits.
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