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So I "Cherrypicked" Another Pattern? 1864 No L Indian Head Cent Graded PF64BN By NGC

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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RedRaider to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wow.....thats about how I can sum it up. Many of you saw my thread about finding the J-300 in another thread. I sent that coin to Rick Snow for opinions and sent him a few other coins to Photoseal.

One of those coins was an 1864 No L Indian Head cent graded PF64BN by NGC.




I liked the toning and it really had a nice cameo surfaces going on both sides. Rich identified this as a "thick planchet" in the slab and said it might be CN or a J-356 pattern. He recommended metal composition testing which came back today. It is 80% Copper, 10% Tin and 10% other metal, making this the J-356. Even more interesting is all known J-356 have 90% copper.

There is a chance this gets a whole new sub-variety in the J-356 (J-356c)!!

I did not truly cherrypick this (really Rick did!) as I bought it as a normal 1864 no L Bronze proof.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Insane... just insane!! So to be clear, this pattern is unique?
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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@jacrispies.....here is the note I got from Rick.

"The 1864 is 80% CU, 10% SN and 10% other. That would make it a J-356. J-356 is 90% CU, so it might be J-356c (new)"


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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's incredible! Pretty impressive to own two IHC patterns!
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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just some insane events going on for you, congratulations! Both are huge finds, having the knowledge to look for these things is very valuable. Well done!

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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats!

Been following this from the beginning.

Awesome story that gets better!
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 Posted 08/09/2022  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another great find! Maybe you should think about buying a lottery ticket, as you're on a roll!
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 Posted 08/10/2022  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incredible find!
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 Posted 08/10/2022  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gosh, great find and what a fascinating topic. I poked around the 1864 patterns on Heritage (not knowing anything about these) and was dumbfounded at all the varieties. The mint made all these different alloys and then rolled them out into different planchet thicknesses? And then struck them with proof and business strikes? In the middle of the Civil War? Crazy. I don't doubt that a new discovery could be made here.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  04:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RedRaider,
Wow,just wow. Also,can you imagine Rick Snows personal collection
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 Posted 08/10/2022  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenwright396 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find, congrats to you!
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 Posted 08/10/2022  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congratulations on a unique find.

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 Posted 08/10/2022  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done indeed.
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 Posted 08/10/2022  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very very cool! Congrats!
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Jealous.
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