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2011 D Nickel This Isn't A DDR And DDO Is It

 
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 Posted 08/10/2022  10:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add prisbrey1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
ok I have this 2011 nickel I just picked up I'm not sure if it is doubled on both obverse and reverse or if it is a md can Machine Doubling just be on some of the devices or does it have to be all the way around the coin




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 Posted 08/10/2022  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a combo of Die Deterioration Doubling and Machine Doubling
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 Posted 08/10/2022  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prisbrey1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks and how do you know the difference what make the two stand apart from each other
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 Posted 08/11/2022  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pris, I'm only seeing Machine Doubling on both sides. You can look at the CCF glossary for definitions, but for me, DDD is always biased toward the rim and most often includes other evidence of the die being tired when used to strike the coin. In this nickel, the bias isn't toward the rim but rather is steplike and reduces the width of the design elements.
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 Posted 08/11/2022  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
prisbrey1,
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 Posted 08/11/2022  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note the areas you are looking at:
1. If they are on the outside/inside edges of the devices, it is Machine Doubling or die wear on these areas.
The DDO is not located on that area of the design.



The DDR is also more in the center of the designs.



Why are the doubled dies on only these areas? Because these are part of the single squeeze process of creating the dies at that time. So looking outside of these areas on some years will the only show doubled dies on certain locations. Best to look at the sites to see what is normal listings on the different years and see where to find the DDO / DDR on the single squeeze dies. On the older multi hubbed dies, the locations are different for older types of dies. So study the sites to see where to look for the doubled die locations, then you will find these doubled dies. Note the link for these on the bottom of my signature box, marked Jefferson coins... which is part of the Wexler listings.


CoopHome: Where can the doubled dies be found on the single squeeze process on nickels? center of the designs
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Machine Doubling is flat amd shelflike, while Die Deterioration Doubling is more like a halo around the devices, the latter is seen on the reverse at the top of the VE of FIVE, note there how this halo connects above the VE
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 Posted 08/11/2022  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prisbrey1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks
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 Posted 08/12/2022  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great eyes again Pris...keep hunting.

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 Posted 08/12/2022  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add prisbrey1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks kopper ken
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