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1931 S Wheat Penny With Layered 99 & 11

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 Posted 08/16/2022  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello

I purchased the coin in a roll on the end on Ebay. I was thinking if I'm going to drop about $90.00 on this coin just as well get a roll of something. Roll was tight & had 7 other IH in the batch. Coin was dirty. I know some people are going to fuss but. I did not clean it with anything except to rub the grime off. No water or anything. Just rubbed with cloth to get a better look.


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 Posted 08/16/2022  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent a 1936 Double Die wheat to be Certified by NGC as an error. They came back & said NGC does not Recognize the 1936 DD as an error. They certified it as regular.

Should I try & have this 1931 S Certified & graded?

Your opinion is appreciated.

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 Posted 08/16/2022  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry not better pictures. Having hard time staying under 300MB

Thank You everyone for your input

Regards
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 Posted 08/16/2022  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not worth grading.
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 Posted 08/16/2022  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rubbing is much worse than water, and can seriously devalue coins as rare as this
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 Posted 08/16/2022  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should not have cleaned it, at all.
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 Posted 08/16/2022  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch.

The fact that this coin was on the end of a roll sold on ebay makes me wonder if it could have been evaluated by the seller and they deemed it beyond conservation.

The full images show the surfaces as rubbed.

The coin IS a key date and still has value.

EDIT: Rereading this topic I too am a little worried about the authenticity of the coin.
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 Posted 08/17/2022  02:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Plainduck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After looking at this coin very closely I'm afraid that "Petespockets 55" is the Winner & I'm the loser. The 3 is 100% wrong! The one on PCGS web site has the 3 on the bottom tip being closer to the 9. See picture attached. My coin clearly has the top of the 3 being closer to the 9. I think it is fake what is your opinion?

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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:32 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Late to the table here but I would agree the coin is a fake. Whole coin pics are, as OP notes, not so good, but the date pic just looks all kinds of wrong.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a fake example:

Only example I have of a fake coin.

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 Posted 08/18/2022  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to hear it turned out this way for you Plainduck.

The 3 looked off and the "MD" around the 9, 3 reminded me of "Longacre doubling", instead of MD.
https://www.error-ref.com/longacre-...%99s%20sides.

BTW- Longacre doubling isn't seen on US coinage after about 1907.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That straight-on shot of the 3 is indeed a dead giveaway.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
was this one constructed from some other date, if so which date? the final 1 in the date looks like it has glue around its edges
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 Posted 08/18/2022  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LazerPig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess the 1 is shaved then superglued on a 193x-S
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