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Silver(?) Variety Of The Nova Scotia Broke Token Ns-7A

 
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 Posted 08/17/2022  10:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have been drawn away from collecting and numismatics for a little while, but a recent item has grabbed my curiosity and dragged me back into things.

The following token is the variety NS-7A and appears to be silver. The accompanying label (apparently from an older British collection) also notes it as silver. It does not appear to be plated as a few notable digs around the rim do not reveal an obvious copper core, but I am not experienced with distinguishing such features. No silver variety for this token is noted by Charlton, Courteau, or other references.





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 Posted 08/18/2022  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Variety NS-7B4

Jetons Canada has one for sale on eBay
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 Posted 08/18/2022  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blargish to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dies used for NS-7B4 (a "Short Bust" variety) are different than those used for the token in question which I am certain is NS-7A (the "Long Bust" variety). Also, I know of no silver example for NS-7B4 either. The cleaned nature of the token posted by JetonsCanada appears to be giving it a misleading colour in the photo?
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 Posted 08/18/2022  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ blargish

I can see how something like that could drag you back in lol.
Very cool example of the token...the off metal is the first feature I see, it appears to be overstruck on something , I see the ghost under there ...it had use , theres wear and I think the die state was late as well, some features look mushy.
I cant offer much more than that other than to say I'd be proud to have that in my collection...I like those oddballs
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 Posted 08/18/2022  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1.It is NS-7A: a. the bust points to the right side of X; b. the shirt at neck line is long; c. the shoulder fringes are short, ending above the bust line.

2. It appears to be overstruck. Probably double struck with the 2nd strike rotated clockwise about 15. I can see another 4 under the shield.

3. An XRF is needed to determine if it silver or plated.

Very interesting piece.
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 Posted 08/19/2022  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Check TerryT's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Charlton token catalogue says that cast copies exist. It could be a result of scrap metal being used, not copper.

What's the weight ? Silver, or lead-mix should be heavier than copper.

If you have $15,000, you can get an RFX gun to check the metal, or make a tiny new scratch on the edge to see if the colour is still silvery.

What looks like a 4 under the shield could be an A from an obverse clash or second coin imprint.
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 Posted 09/19/2022  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ainsivalavie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@blargish: Did you take the weight of your token? Because normally if it is silver, it should have a higher density than copper, so you could always do a density test.

But it won't necessarily be a categorical answer, since it depends on the accuracy of the test and also the silver content.
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 Posted 09/21/2022  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a solder mark (or a rim dingl between A and N in briannia?
Could've been plated for mounting?
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