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2014 D Shenandoah Quarter Missing Clad Layer?

 
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CRHunting to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey Everyone!
I found this interesting quarter recently and wanted to get a few extra opinions on it. I've seen so many intentionally altered coins that I initially assumed this was a PMD science experiment. Plus I've always reallllllly wanted to find a missing clad layer coin so I didn't want to have my wishful thinking get in the way of good judgment.

That said, after scoping the coin I noticed some aspects of the coin that intrigued me. The striations on the front of the coin that I initially thought was damage might alternatively be a planchet issue. If so, it would make a missing clad layer more plausible. The rim of the coin also shows that there might be a distinctive line of where the clad no longer exists. Finally, I put a little acetone on the reverse of the coin to make sure it wasn't a die/paint/coloring and none of the color came off with the acetone.

What do you think?

Thanks for the input!





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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a real example of a missing clad. Most of the time you would see not a copper edge, but it looks like the missing cladding. The design is not weak like a post missing clad would look like. The weight would be nice to see. It should be underweight with a missing clad. Overweight it this was a partial plating issue.

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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHunting to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh also the coin weighs 5.66g. So it's not underweight but apparently that doesn't necessarily disqualify it from being a missing clad layer coin. Either way, I thought it was a fairly interesting coin.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHunting to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coop! So you think this coin has a partial plating issue?
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 Posted 08/18/2022  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd hold on to it for now. But note on the rim edge there is a rough edge there like a masked off area. Looking at the last image, the incuse devices appear to be lighter? Well they are deep into the coin, so they should be a darker copper color. So I feel questionable now with the new weight in. Try to see if the color will rub off on the edge where the round surface is present? (Just touching the rim area) In case someone painted the reverse? If it rubs off it might be a color added to the reverse? (plating would not rub off)
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 Posted 08/18/2022  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHunting to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just checked again and none of the color will come off of the rim. I used a q-tip with acetone so it would be pretty easy to see if any of the copper color ended up on the q-tip but it's till perfectly white.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an ordinary quarter. Struck up too sharp for missing layer, and weight is normal.
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 Posted 08/18/2022  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHunting to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Missing clad layer coins can actually be both full weight and sharply struck (ex. https://www.error-ref.com/missing-c...nderweight.)

That said, I don't think that particular scenario works on this case since the coin in question still exhibits some clad on the reverse rim.
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