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Quarter 1968-D Strike On SMS Planchet And DDO, DDR And RPM Together? Help

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 Posted 08/20/2022  6:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, I post here and is confirmed that this coin was struck on SMS planchet (rest of San Francisco 1967) with the Anvil and Hammer which was never send in SF because they was already finish the 1967 production. All those designs are RDV-004 Type D.

Me and my collaborators we find this only in UN sets at a % of 0.11% average.

The question for you is if the coin has DDO,DDR and RPM in same time. Of 11 find in 1000 sets by me only this has this characteristics. I know they use only 4 anvils and hammer prepared for SMS.

FULL PICTURE(My camera sucks of this full)


OBSERVE: The BER in Liberty, the rest is correct, The Date only "968" and MM upper left corner seem RPM






REVERSE: The first S, the A and ES in STATES, The T's are correct. The left upper wing has a small die crack (in the circle), which was characteristic for the 1967 SMS's Anvil. Only EP show signs of MD





Sorry, I know many questions and many photos, but I have to confirm or infirm my troughs. the coin is part of my book for design varieties and not for DDO, DDR or RPM
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08/20/2022 7:12 pm
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 Posted 08/20/2022  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Check Dearborn's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know, Sil, this looks like MD to me. I have a hard time seeing doubling that moves towards the rim at K12 and again towards the rim at K6. Also this looks shelf like to me. (I could be wrong, but just my opinion here)
Lets see what the others have to say.

(also there is no DDO listings for DDO on VV for a 1968 D quarter)
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08/20/2022 8:42 pm
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 Posted 08/20/2022  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dear, the K12 and K6 different opposite direction on the same coin light me to ask here. For me is contraire to all physics laws of striking. Also at K12 why only the bottom of few letters and not all or also upper near the rim?
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 Posted 08/20/2022  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No listings currently for RPMs on the 1968 D quarters, at least on varietyvista. I do see what might be a split serif on the top of the letter D though. Maybe instead it is a little scratch? Not sure.
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 Posted 08/20/2022  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is close up of MM


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 Posted 08/21/2022  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silvio I have 1968 quarter. here is a couple of images

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 Posted 08/21/2022  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
one more Silvio. there this will show it hope this helps.
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 Posted 08/21/2022  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the images on V.V it shows a slight difference on the location of the 'N' near the head:
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 Posted 08/21/2022  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes COOP, maybe you are right. The N is sheriff, which it is in RDV-006 of unconfirm for SMS because the dies was never use, and is normal for 1968 D Here the RDV-004 H versus this coin at Right.



Other thing: what you think about the "S" 's in STATES and the MM?

Hope you see again this post.
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 Posted 08/21/2022  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i decided to remove this coin. I want to share a full image. I am doing my best trying to jam this camera. so if its burry its me sorry
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 Posted 08/21/2022  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is the obverse
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 Posted 08/21/2022  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
closer look at the head and the N
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 Posted 08/21/2022  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silvio I scaled yours and my coins. they are different.
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 Posted 08/21/2022  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes because it is SMS die 1967. Thanks.
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 Posted 08/21/2022  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a confusing thread. Rocky, you coin looks different then silviosi. The finishes are different but lighting can play tricks easily. The main focus iv seen is the N in UNUM and silviosi has yet to show a close up of that spot specifically.

I'm not saying anyone is wrong here but it seems to be a 2 way conversation that confuses me. If you guys ever Wana PM me to explain your findings feel free but your probably just out of my league for Americain die pairings.
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 Posted 08/21/2022  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WR: interesting, do in your league you has another die with those S in states combine with the MM? And which year?
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