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1971-S 10c Monster DDO 🤩 The Wow Factor Is Real.

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 Posted 09/22/2022  8:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Holy moly. Found my first unfound DDO.
I've searched and searched and found nothing near what I got going on. If this ain't double die stick a fork in me.
So at first I thought I just had some Md on a proof ok weird in the date.
Second thought was oh now I got some junk die falling apart on me as I'm moving to IGWT. Ok well some of this is way off in more then one way.
As I'm moving up to Liberty more and more I'm seeing what I was praying for.
Enjoy guys.
Only questions.
If nothing like this been found yet. How's that work?
I'm sending my items to anacs since it's all I can afford.
I literally spent one of my last $100 on this unopened box of proofs and was praying to someone up there they could help me out.
I've got a some other errors in this thing but this dime has to be a big deal right?
This image of the difference between machine double and a double die is what I use to follow. If it were md then it's backwards. Cuz the part underneath is thicker then the top layer?

















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09/22/2022 9:43 pm
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert, but looks like Machine Doubling to me.
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnwmakes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm.. have you compared it to the 1971 S DDO-001 on Variety Vista? It does not seem to match up looks kinda like Machine Doubling in my opinion.

http://www.varietyvista.com/07%20Ro...1SDDO001.htm
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really Machine Doubling? If anything I'd go for ejection doubling. But this isn't some small pushed out flat surface.
And would you have any links to a machine double like this one? I honestly have never seen such a thing. Nice clean cuts and edges.
I'm honestly trying to learn so if you have any sort of links id appreciate them.
I did look at variety vista but that one didn't look like this. But if I did focus on IGWT it is similar that u in mine no way that's not double die.
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! Just WOW!
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pile, using the CCF search function with the following keywords: 1971 S DIME MD, I found this prior discussion:

http://goccf.com/t/396305

It would surprise me if there weren't others as well, but this should get you started on your research.

I'm sure @coop and others will weigh in at some point as well, but I agree that your coin looks like Machine Doubling rather than a doubled die.
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately that is certainly Machine Doubling. Keep hunting! Awesome pieces come up here and there. Eventually something big will come along!

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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spence, I did search the same thing and honestly you think that flat machine double is the same thing as this?
I'm seriously trying to understand if it's md cool no problem.
But that post you sent the link for is an example of a small flat Machine Doubling. Not what your seeing here with what I've posted correct? If I need to I'll get you some more photos. If it's md then it's upside down md. The top layer is the flattened part compared to what's on the bottom layer.
I keep hearing this name Coop.
Guy must be super knowledgeable? That's exciting
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@pile, thinking the wow factor is not real.
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 Posted 09/22/2022  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes there are a couple people who have devoted tneir collecting to errors and are super knowledgeable. @coop is one of those while I'm more of a scrub. There are several other experts here, but @coop is one of the more prolific.

With that said, your doubling is shelf-like and causes the letters to be reduced in size. To me that means it is MD. Let's see what the others think.
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 Posted 09/22/2022  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blank page to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I posted a few MD coins and every time I thought I found one. Spence linked me to this Coop post, and I am still no pro, but it helped me more than any other post......

http://goccf.com/t/320844
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 Posted 09/22/2022  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok taking better photos cuz you guys for some reason think the bottom part of this is a flat smashed out Machine Doubling.
Maybe my pictures were bad?
















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 Posted 09/22/2022  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly some of ya are some
Pretty rude.
I'm here trying to learn and understand then their is guys like you that instead of explaining why you think it's one way you just spew nonsense. If ya don't like what I have to say then move along.
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 Posted 09/22/2022  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PileOfCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok looking back at the pics I took ya I see why you guys thought it was just flat.
I get it now. But look at second set of photos you'll get it.
As you can see now if the photos as to why I think you are incorrect.
It's not some flat shelf. It's an entirely same or thicker device.
I'm not trying to argue. I'm simply trying to understand.
MD is a small flat shelf that removes part of the device from its original form.
So what happens when the bottom part of the device is just as thick and wide as the top layer?
Or how about in the R where it kind of has a huMp on the curve how would it have that doubled? Would it not only smash it flat and not mimic the hump?
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 Posted 09/22/2022  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry this it is not an error DDO. Took me some time to analyze all the photos and the thinking of the lines, circles, etc. It is characteristic for double strike small coins for proof on horizontal presses of that time. In fact I never see yet an DDO real on dimes for this year. Could be one somewhere, but at this moment never see. What you has I see before, and it is just surface some kind of grease from strike. We see this also in the modern proof coins. What it is nice with your coin it is the proof quality. In that year the San Francisco change the rules for prepare the proof dies. What mean this, for the first time the dies was polis with diamond paste by the machine then manually with diamond paste. After the dies go too clean process, but some how some paste remain and the coins show this apparently doubling. If you clean the coin everything go away.

Hope help you and the forum.

PS. according with my books I past aprox 12.5 K dimes proof for this year.
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09/22/2022 10:54 pm
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