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Suspicious Tiberius Denarius From Vcoins. I've Received Mixed Opinions.

 
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 Posted 10/05/2022  04:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dls_m0nst3r to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Do you guys believe there is any chance of this coin being legitimate? The weight and size both check out. Thank you all.


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 Posted 10/05/2022  08:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can understand why the mixed opinions

Weight and size suggest genuine. but
'mushy' design details suggest fake however, it could have been struck from worn dies.
Little pimples in front of forehead suggest casting, and could be the remains of a casting sprue at 3 o'clock obv.
Search VCOINS: 'tribute penny' examples for comparison, especially regarding field texture

Tiberius silver normally 90% to 95% pure, XRF testing would help.
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 Posted 10/05/2022  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/05/2022  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is questionable. The porosity could be the result of a crude flan. You do see that from time to time, mostly on military mint issues though. I can't say for certain from the pics but I personally would stay away from it.
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 Posted 10/05/2022  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought from Vcoins but it's been a while. I think the dealers there are legit, honest and should offer returns. I've heard of a few fakes being sold on Vcoins, hopefully more a dealer not knowing rather than being deceptive.

You could compare it with pics of fakes on places like forgery network or the forgery database on Forum Ancient Coins.

Porous coins could be cast fakes or due to them laying in the ground for a long time corroding. Porous coins are cheaper but usually don't appreciate a lot in value.

If you got if for a good price and want to keep it you could send it off for authenticity to someone like David Sear or NGC. Or if you want, pass on this one, save $ and wait to buy one with better metal.
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 Posted 10/05/2022  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One thing you could do, if you live close to a coin store who has a metal analyzer, take the denarius there and check it's metal content, whether silver or non silver metal.

Yes ancient silver coins can be corroded and porous. Here's my most porous coin in my collection, AE Vespasian, asserion, reverse victory. I bought it from Bill Rosenblum over twenty years ago, $20. When I got it, it was heavily encrusted, I cleaned it. Of course better examples are much more expensive.


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 Posted 10/05/2022  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MartiVltori to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For clarification, when I said I would personally stay away from it, that is mostly because it is not super appealing. I think it is more likely genuine than not but still within the realm of questionable.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am happier with the fields on the CNG examples than the fields of the OP's coin.
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 Posted 10/07/2022  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DIs_m0nst3r, any thoughts about the denarius? As I mentioned, you could take it to a coin store and have it tested to see if it's silver.
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