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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's interesting--sometimes amusing, sometimes frustrating--when a poster supplies images of only one side of a coin, often close-in to the feature in question and nothing else.
When making the decision to post photos, I think about how I would respond to someone walking up to me at a coin show and asking me to look at a coin. Instinctively, I'd pick up some magnification and look at both sides of the coin first, then give more attention to the feature(s) of interest. I'd think most of us would do that--get the coin in-hand (in flip, or slab, or just loose) and look at both sides to establish the context of what we're looking at.
It gets a little tedious to constantly suggest to posters that they provide full images of the obverse and reverse, then go for the closer-in shots (if needed). Alas, patience is a good thing and we will move forward in a positive way. Posting full, large and sharp pics of the obverse and reverse is a good thing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agreed with above statement. And furthermore the understanding of the people who are in the know about the different coins is outstanding in my opinion . I don't know the half of this coin collecting and it frustrates me. I understand the newbie's but there are a lot of people with many post who will not post both sides.
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Moderator
 United States
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I think there should be/needs to be a step-by-step instructions in the photo posting section to help members post pics.MODS..... John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Agree but a ? 'do you want to see a single pic of the rev & obv or a side by side'?
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Forum Dad
United States
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I think there should be/needs to be a step-by-step instructions in the photo posting section to help members post pics.MODS.....
John1 The problem is that People hardly ever read instructions. I'll give you an example. Below is a screenshot of the contact form.  See the big yellow box with the bright red Very Important Note in the middle? Read it please. I get at least 40-50 emails through this form a week with questions about coins. One guy this week even gave me crap about not having a way to upload pictures of his coin on the form.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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In most cases I disagree. Often the interesting thing about the coin is the specific detail being discussed. For instance, I just searched a bunch of 1955-S Cent rolls and found some interesting new BIE breaks. I plan to share the photos at some point, but I don't plan to show the whole coin obverse and reverse. The only reason I'd do that is if I wanted to show some other aspect of the coin which is distinguishing such as die markers, but the small photos we are able to post here won't show those with enough detail to help anyone with identification. So, I must ask...why would you want to see both sides, when the detail of interest is on only a small area of one of the sides? If you go to most of the websites that are used for documenting varieties (variety vista, coppercoins, wexler, etc) they don't show the full coin, only the details of interest. The details are zoomed-in enough to show what is needed to identify the variety, and zoomed-out enough to show relationship of those details with the other devices such as the position of the mintmark relative to the date, etc. Now, I do understand and agree with the need for full-coin photos if attribution is the goal, not just sharing of a new find, etc. Indeed the ability to show a full coin image of obverse and reverse, in sufficient detail in every area of the coin to show die markers, has been a goal of mine for a long time. I have been doing this with many of my new discoveries and coins of interest for some time, and posting them over on EasyZoom for viewing. Here is an example, but you can see a bunch more there if you look. Note that these images are way too big to post here, reinforcing my statements above. https://easyzoom.com/image/295182/a...?mode=manageEdited by rmpsrpms
10/22/2022 11:25 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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rmpsrpms- Posting large clear photos of both obverse and reverse are crucial. The coin tells a story. Seeing the coin fully, is neccessary to come to a conclusion on how the coin in question got to the state it is in. If someone only goes off of a small zoomed in spot, it would be extremely challenging distinguishing between a Dryer Coin and a real error for example. The sites like variety vista having only zoomed in photos is completely acceptable. These coins have been properly attributed and are used for reference. In other words there is no question as to whether or not they are genuine errors/varieties etc. You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
557 Posts |
"I think there should be/needs to be a step-by-step instructions in the photo posting section to help members post pics."
While it is always true that many people don't read instructions (or follow them for that matter) it would still be worthwhile to provide simple and basic instructions for photography lay people like me. After all, coins are the hobby here, not photography!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Good conversation.
There've been several instances where someone only provides pics of one side...and when asked to post 'the other side' (and they do), missed features/issues are occasionally discovered which add to the story of the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Anyone can learn how to post pics.
The fact of the matter is, most are being lazy.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Anyone can learn how to post pics.
Yes but to post a pic that is clear and in focus and a good size to see the details that's another story. It took the years to get it right and I still don't have it perfect.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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rmpsrpms- Posting large clear photos of both obverse and reverse are crucial This is not always true. Most of the time when trying to explain or attribute varieties, a high quality, high magnification image is all that is needed. Full coin photos can cause confusion. Quote:If someone only goes off of a small zoomed in spot, it would be extremely challenging distinguishing between a Dryer Coin and a real error for example. Yes, of course this is true. Why would someone do this? If the error or whatever has the scope of the whole coin, then you need to see the whole coin. If you're trying to show beautiful toning, you show the whole coin. If you're trying to show a huge lamination that goes across the coin, then you show the whole coin. But it is not universally needed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I usually put together a Photoshop image with both the obverse and reverse as a side-by-side with the reverse rotated 180°. If the rotation is in question, I don't rotate the reverse. The key to posting on CCF is to reduce the 'Quality' of the jpeg image when the file is saved in Photoshop. I can usually get an 1800X900 to 2500X1250 pixel image to save at less than the 300K limit without a problem if I reduce the 'Quality' down to 1 or even 0 and it doesn't show in the online image.
I also try to use the same 'Red Cloth' background on all of my coin images as a way to spot them if they are used outside of the CCF. I used a combination of Photoshop filters to develop the texture, and I can immediately spot a picture that I've taken just by the look of this background, even if the image is just a thumbnail.
All of my images can be used by any of the CCF members if they find them useful, just don't claim them as your work or try to make a profit on them.
I did some testing with images a couple of years ago to find the best settings. Saving the picture as described above also allows the 'Click for Larger Size' to bring up a HUGE image that you can really zoom in on and study if needed.
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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10/22/2022 10:11 pm
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Posted 10/22/2022 09:49 am
