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Information On Limited Edition Silver Dollars Please

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 Posted 01/16/2023  11:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add smuglr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would appreciate help with the silver dollars such as the Kathleen Coleman. I've seen these referred to as limited edition or fine silver dollars. Is the single issue the same as contained in the proof set? I seem to remember these being available as an uncirculated single also. I'm a bit foggy on it but thought I ordered a proof set and a single uncirculated to be covered. Any help sorting this out including date ranges these were available would be great. Thank you.
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 Posted 01/16/2023  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2023 proof silver dollar pays tribute to the life and contributions of Kathleen "Kit" Coleman (1856-1915), an important and influential Canadian journalist from 1889 to 1911. Crafted in 99.99% pure silver, the annual Fine Silver Proof Dollar is our flagship collector coin and one of the year's most anticipated collectibles. Limited supply. Only 35,000 coins—a lower mintage than in 2022—are available to collectors worldwide. Also available: The 2023 Fine Silver Proof Dollar honouring Kathleen "Kit" Blake Coleman is included in the 2023 Special Edition Proof Set, and you'll find a selectively gold-plated version in the 2023 Fine Silver Proof Dollar Set. So yes its the same as the 2023 special edition proof set version but not the 2023 fine silver proof dollar set, and only for 2023 as other year silver proofs will not have that design. I do not see an uncirculated version.

The reverse of the coin features a woman silhouette collage that captures key moments in Coleman's life, including: the ship that brought her to Canada; the office of the Toronto newspapers that published her columns from 1889 to 1911; and a typewriter that symbolizes her impact on Canadian journalism. On top of the reverse, the inscription "CANADA DOLLAR"- the country of issue and the face value and "2023"- the year of issue. The obverse of the coin features the effigy of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and the inscriptions: "ELIZABETH II" - the name of the Queen, "D·G·REGINA" - the Latin acronym, "1952-2022" - the dates of Queen Elizabeth's reign.

A very interesting modern design
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 Posted 01/16/2023  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi @smuglr

On any given year, there are usually three or more Silver dollars released. To be clear, the Silver Dollars are released on 2 different planchets... one is 27mm in diameter and is the same size as the circulating loon, the other is 36mm in diameter and is the one I believe you are referring to and the only one I will refer to here. The local expert on the SD is @commems and I will defer to him. However, my contribution to the confusion is:

On an annual basis the RCM issues a standalone proof silver dollar. This coin is proof finish with a mirror field and frosted devices The Kit Coleman is the 2023 SD, last year was the Alexander Graham Bell and so on back to 1981. Note 1971-1981 also had a SD but the finish was Specimen, not Proof.

In addition to the Standalone proof SD the RCM also issues a coin of the same design as part of the annual premium silver proof set. These days (since 2005) the Proof Set version of the SD can be differentiated as it has Selective gold plating on the devices that are frosted on the Standalone SD.

There is also an additional SD that is sometimes released which refers to the same subject often with slight differences that may be BU finished or colourized as part of a base metal proof set where only the SD is silver. Note that release of this set is inconsistent, the 36mm coin is not always a SD... it has been a medallion occasionally i.e. not denominated as currency.

Beyond this the RCM will also issue "Special edition" SDs that can commemorate any number of items... Usually there are only one of these, if any, in a given year but 2017 is an example of a bumper crop where between all of the annual, standalone, set special and other release there were 6 different SDs that commemorated Canada's 150th birthday.

@commems usually posts a table every couple of years listing all of the varieties of Canadian NCLT SDs released.. it is a great resource. Check out from 2022 http://goccf.com/t/415978
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Thanks for the added info. To clarify, this is the 36mm standalone proof dollar. The Proof dollar is available singly or included in the 2023 Special Edition Proof set as mentioned is the same version, and a selectively gold-plated version is separately offered in the 2023 Fine Silver Proof Dollar set which is a different set and a different variation you can pick up. As to a uncirculated version I cant yet see any info on that but I didnt call them for example.



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Thank you @vonigohcr and datadragon for your replies. @vonigohcr I understand from your information part of the reason I'm so confused lol, so there has not been a long term consistent pattern to these? I was most wondering about the stand alone uncirculated SD as I was sure I had seen them previously and only seeing the stand alone proof SD this year I thought I may have been wrong. Are the 27mm planchet you mentioned the collector versions of the loon and usually not silver? I have also wondered about a colorized silver proof set (with medallion?) last year, but that must also be inconsistent. I also appreciate your posting a link for me to @commems list. I will have to spend some time diving into it. Canada 150 was a big deal for me, I was in Ottawa on The Hill for some of the events. Would you be able to help me with information on the 6 SD that year? Thank you both again.
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125th Anniversary meh!
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I feel I need to clarify a few things mentioned by others.

1st, there have NOT been any uncirculated (BU) silver dollars made since 2015. ALL SD's since are PROOF.

The same SD is NOT available as a single coin and in sets. The 'main' SD for the year (this year is Kit Coleman, and shown above in datadragon's post) is ONLY available as a single coin. The SD in the pure silver proof set will have the same look but will be gold plated. The SD in the clad (SE) proof set will most likely have a different design or might be colourized.

There were SEVEN silver dollars released in 2017. Two of them featured the Canadian Confederation; one a solo proof and the other was gold plated from a set. Next were four different "Our Home & Native Land" dollars. Two were sold as singles and two were included in sets. The main difference was the size and colors of the "150" on each dollar. Finally there was a proof set made for the 50th anniversary of Alex Colville which had a copy of the 1967 SD.

Back to the present, as others have mentioned, don't be surprised if more SD varieties are issued this year. I'd be shocked if their wasn't at LEAST one King Charles SD this year.
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