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1965 Quarter Reverse Double Die Error

 
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 Posted 01/28/2023  11:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 3wheels to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

I have a 1965 Quarter that has clear doubling on the reverse on the wing, and on some of the lettering in United States and in the Quarter Dollar. Is it worth grading and selling? Attached are pictures including a side by side to show quality, with the quarter in question being on the right. Obviously well circulated as it's a 1965, but has a nice shine and looks clean unless using the microscope.

Any guidance is greatly appreciated.









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 Posted 01/28/2023  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the shelflike appearance suggest that is Machine Doubling
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 Posted 01/28/2023  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to be Machine Doubling. In my opinion, not worth submitting for grading. Others will come along to weigh-in.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's Machine Doubling and very common. No premium.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just Machine Doubling. Note the affected devices are reduced on the outside edge of the devices. A doubled die will show enlargement on the centers of the devices, not on the outer edge of the devices. Machine Doubling and extreme die wear is found on the outer edges of the devices. The devices will show enlargement on the centers of the devices. So look there, rather than where you are looking now. Enlargement? How to tell the differences?

Note this strong DDR? Note how the devices are enlarged and the centers of the devices are even smaller than normal. So look at the devices, and not at the edges of the devices. Machine Doubling is common on the devices and has no premium for these.

Centers of the devices.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 01/28/2023  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3wheels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I guess I have to work on recognizing the difference between the two. :)
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 Posted 01/28/2023  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bugil46 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/28/2023  3:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For 1965 Phil you has 3 RDV's so 3 different Hubs. till now only RDV-003 and RDV-004 has the DDR. The hint on it is the Q in Quarter which it is doubling (hub doubling) bottom inside the inner circle.

What you see upper the wing it is characteristic Die Crack. Bottom of the side wing you has Strike Doubling. The rest also Strike Doubling.
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 Posted 01/29/2023  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3wheels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, but now I'm confused, lol. Do you mean there is doubling, but only on the G? If that's the case, I'm guessing it's still not worth grading?

Thanks again.
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Not worth to grade. I state you do not has DDR here. Your coin it is RDV-005 which do not has DDR's. Who say something about G? I told you the Q it is the Hint to recognise very fast the RDV and also N in Unum. Those are hints and not errors or particular varieties. to grade this coin will be money put in the trash.
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 Posted 01/29/2023  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3wheels to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  01:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buttercup0919 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the circle is visible toward the bottom as well. I would guess coin counter machine damage. I have one, and I was so excited, got my bubble burst.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Machine Doubling, not worth grading fees, so no, don't bother sending it in for grading.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the circulated coin varieties that are not worth slabbing. Unless they are worth a lot more than the slab fees. $50 dollars is a lot to shell out for a coin worth less than the fee to has it entombed. (Spend with fees and shipping for X amount and get back just part of the fee when you sell it, is not worth it to me away.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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