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1883 20 $ Do You See One Of Them?

 
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 Posted 01/30/2023  02:00 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Simple question. Do someone see one of the 40 struck 20$ 1883 coin. I do not find any record of them As I do not find for one of the 75 Nurse medal 1925 in bronze.

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01/30/2023 02:30 am
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 Posted 01/30/2023  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC and PCGS both say the mintage was actually 92. Earlier they thought only the 40 struck for proof sets, but another 52 were struck individually. If you're looking for a visual record of them, there are about a dozen in Heritage archives, some may be the same coins sold more than once. 20-25 thought to survive.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Info and pic here Silviosi - more recent work is that by John Dannreuther, where he narrows the estimated number extant to 28 to 32 pieces known.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/proof-libe.../1326-4118.s

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 Posted 01/30/2023  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for info. I complete forgot about Heritage. I will go to see the prices realized also. I have a chance to buy one here in Montreal and exe[t an old mint record nothing more about before this post. Thank You.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  01:52 am  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope the coin you saw is certified.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it is not certify. Good price. Past the metallic, weight, diameter and thickness. I compare the coin design with some photos from Mint find and I do not see been an replica.. The gold it is 899.8 which it is in the parameters according with the Mint report. I ask you the bests of those coins because come to me unexpected and 150K is not an pocket change. Me I think it is an 62 max 63 (I am very conservative on grading). Sorry no photos for moment but I look forward because not every corners can made you has a rarity and also a beauty.
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 Posted 01/31/2023  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A PR62 sold in 2015 for USD$70500. A PR53 sold in 2019 for USD$87000. I would insist on authentication from a TPG before even thinking about spending that kind of money. Nothing scares me more than someone saying "good price", especially for a rarity like this one. What could possibly motivate someone to sell it raw directly to you, rather than submit it to a reputable auction house, where they would submit it for grading, probably waive the seller fees, and get the best attention and price for the seller?
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 Posted 01/31/2023  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 02/01/2023  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm reasonably certain that you meant PR63
Nope. PR53.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/liberty-do...bnail-071515
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 Posted 02/01/2023  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah yes, I see the confusion @Dearborn as proofs are typically uncirculated. In this specific case according to the description, this 1883 proof survived a short stay in circulation, perhaps spent by its owner during the hard financial times of the early 1890s. A few small marks on the portrait and light high-point wear is apparent in-hand, while a loupe reveals scattered field chatter and a few minor pinscratches. So in those cases the grade can be AU and below.
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 Posted 02/01/2023  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nope. PR53.

Actually on the holder it says PF53.
I don't think it makes much difference though.
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 Posted 02/01/2023  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NGC uses PF, others use PR, Heritage calls it PR53 so that's what I used. Regardless, it's an impaired proof, pretty unusual considering the rarity. Now back to the OP - are you really going to gamble ~$100k on a raw coin? Interested to see how this works out.
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 Posted 02/01/2023  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Dearborn's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, ok thanks for the clarification.. I guess you can see my confusion when there was no mention of it being circulated and no image provided.

(just not used to circulated proofs, I guess)
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02/01/2023 4:16 pm
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 Posted 02/01/2023  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all. I learn a lot about this coin here from you and also so cleaver ideas. I will gamble as someone say this 115K US (150K CAN). My opinion it is at least PR62 semi CAM (after I receive the grading points for those from ANACS). I will take and hope him to sell me also one of the two CAN 500$ bill from 1935 series. I will loose?. maybe, but if I pass this and later I will regret will be worst. So I will go for and I promise to post here the result from grader.
Will be long because I do not plan to come in State before June.

I like those old nice designs, but hard to have 'it now. Tank you all, Good bless us and You.

PS: I didn't post the photo just for purpose of security)
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02/01/2023 5:31 pm
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