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Canadian Shipwreck Coins - Are They A Thing?

 
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 Posted 03/03/2023  11:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Wawahtewa Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Shipwreck coinage recently sparked my interest.

I did some quick searching online to see if there was any Shipwreck coinage from Canada but didn't find much.

So here I am asking for some help. Is there such a thing as Canadian Shipwreck coinage? If so I'd love some info, or even pictures!

Thanks in advance!
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 Posted 03/03/2023  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar 1935 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's the theory that most of the 1916-C sovereign mintage still exist and has been sunken on its way to the UK during WWI, but its very unlikely.

Theres the HMS Feversham who sunk near Louisbourg, N.S. with a significant ammount of silver coin or ingot, (including spanish empire reales) who has been recovered in 1968.

You have also the HMS Tilsbury also sunk near Louisbourg in 1757, The ship was in the expedition to capture the city when it sunk, it had a large amount of coins to pay the troops and there's a few ones out there in the collector market.

Also, you have the very famous Chameau, a french vessel who sunk near the Cap Breton in 1725, most of the coins got recovered in the 60's and quite a few got auctioned in the early 70'S. For sure your best bet for very nice pedigreed coins

A link for more information about the Chameau tresury :
https://thomasnumismatics.com/en/bl...au-treasure/

A coin from this shipwreck certified by PCGS :
https://www.PCGSeurope.com/cert/43300750?l=fr
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 Posted 03/04/2023  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a comical aside, don't forget the loads of coins and dies that have been strewn across the highways in truck transport crashes
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 Posted 03/04/2023  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wawahtewa Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help Dollar 1935.

Very interesting reads about the Chameau online. Looked up some coins from the Chameau and they seem rather rare and very pricey compared to other shipwrecks coinage.

I may venture on that side of the hobby in the future. But for now its just fun to gather information and read about it.
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 Posted 03/04/2023  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.communitystories.ca/v1/...l=2818&pos=1

It's a wreck...but not exactly the same.
I've heard stories of people shovelling coins into wheelbarrows on the ice...apparently (rumours only) you can still go to places out under the bridge and still find handfuls of them
Not sure if that's what you're looking for but it's a cool story
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 Posted 03/04/2023  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar 1935 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not necessarily expensive, you can find silver coins in relatively bad shape from those shipwreck at a fairly decent price but they are definitely not as common as the El Cazador coins for example.

I think you speak french so here's a link to Numicanada who show a few other ''canadian'' shipwreck coins : https://numicanada.com/forum/viewto...?f=6&t=32691
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 Posted 03/07/2023  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Montgomery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another one shipwreck is L'Auguste. Some coins from the wreck were sold by auction around 10 years ago.
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 Posted 03/10/2023  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cedargrove to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have an Ecu from Le Chameau. It is completely worn on one side from wave action, but very crisp on the other. This ship was bringing supplies, dignitaries, and soldier pay to New France in 1725 when it sank off the coast near Louisbourg. Most coins were silver Ecus dated 1725, and some gold Louis d'ors.

I also have a Spanish 8 reales from the Auguste. This ship was taking French back to France in 1761 after the British conquest. A lot of French and Spanish coins were found. The French silver is predominantly dated prior to 1730s, and the Spanish silver is mostly from the 1730s onwards, which gives a good indication as to when Spanish coinage became prevalent in Canada.

I would also like to obtain something from the Tilbury (sank 1757). It was predominantly Spanish 8 reales found on this wreck.

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Cedargrove ... you've carved out a neat niche in the Canadian numismatic circles. Congrats or your past purchases and keeping the past alive.
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 Posted 04/07/2023  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar 1935 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few coins from the Chameau will be auctioned off here (also, an ecu, lot 1489) :

https://auction.sedwickcoins.com/Tr...au&hi=0&vm=1


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 Posted 05/23/2023  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cedargrove to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dollar 1935,

Thanks for the link. I was the successful bidder on one of the Chameau Louis d'or coins. Pretty excited to have it.
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