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Topic StarterItaly
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@dsking, I have posted some of these polishing quirks on other threads . . . and I do often repeat some of the strange incidents I have had buying coins in Italy ; a summary of one is unpolished pre 65 silver at silver weight - Morgans, Peace, Franklin, Kennedy, etc - but a heavily polished Franklin at 18 euro . . .
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Roma, I've admired the many other purchases that you've made. But in this case, I would pass on it. Perhaps it's just the pictures, but it just is not an attractive coin.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Bedrock of the Community
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im sure it can be quite a challenge to find authentic untouched coins where you are. you need to be more discerning when laying out money on higher value unslabbed coins.
best advice if you are not doing this is to bring a scale with you and if you look at a lot of gold for purchasing maybe even investing in a gold tester. also, the more knowledge you have about a particular series that you are looking at the better you will be able to assess it. until then post here and you will get unbiased opinions to help
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Topic StarterItaly
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@pan... I usually do bring a scale and I have only bought one unslabbed american coin. I have bought some other gold coins which I am comfortable verifying. I appreciate the heads-up though and I do great appreciate you and everyone on this forum.
I check, maybe compulsively, everything I buy... Scale, loupe, diameter, ping, and for anything remotely numismatic, I run it by this forum too...I figure it's a tradeoff on paying silver weight for Morgans etc.
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The coin in the OP. Does not look gold to me at all.   |
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I agree Keith12 - it just doesn't look real...especially for it's year! Lovely one that you have there!
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Bedrock of the Community
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I check, maybe compulsively, everything I buy... Scale, loupe, diameter, ping, and for anything remotely numismatic I'm sure you learned that that hard way.
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Topic StarterItaly
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@pan... I bought a fake Connecticut half dollar early on... I paid about 18 euro... I sold it as a replica for 10 euro. Looking back I should have destroyed it. A contemporary fake German states coin. And I think that is it. I've bought a few fakes in other areas... But for coins I have tried to weigh, measure, ping, and loupe everything... Vendors can get annoyed but I do it ....
The IGE posted on another thread is the only u.s. gold coin of any numismatic interest I have bought in Rome. A few quarter ounce gold eagles but I am more familiar with this coin and also verify... Compulsively.
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03/16/2023 4:17 pm
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Looks like the used a billion watt bulb to photograph it so grade and authenticity indeterminate. A common problem with listings.
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I think the coin could be genuine, just whizzed. I have had recent experience comparing photos from shops with the real thing. With american coins of this type. You need to look at the coin in hand, vendors sell these as bullion, it is not worth the time to get perfect focus, light, for photos. My guess, this will be a very nice looking coin. Just bag marks in the high areas. Common gold coins, german marks and british sovereigns, you need to look out, many fakes in Europe. They were used in trade and people were faking them at the time. American coins, I do not think there are many fakes here. They were not popular when gold was used in trade. People bought them from banks that got them from trade with the USA. After the end of the gold standard banks spent decades emptying their vaults of those american coins. Little chance of old fakes. Modern forgeries are made to fool collectors, would not show up as bullion. These are coins from people who inherited gold bought and kept in vaults, and and now selling on the high prices. Nice ones can be found.
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Posted 03/15/2023 5:29 pm
