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Artificial Intelligence (Ai) Comes To Coin Grading

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 Posted 03/15/2023  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just a tool that perhaps gives you an unbiased perspective. Certainly I've seen graders worse than this app.
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 Posted 03/15/2023  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ran an obviously damaged coin through the app and it gave a straight XF grade. Not great..

I also tried to trick it by using 2 sides from different coins and it did not seem to notice that it was 2 different coins.

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 Posted 03/15/2023  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious, have you attempted to "trick" the algorithm by utilizing two different denominations, in attempts of passing it off as the same coin? Being that a Sacagawea dollar and a quarter are (similar in size), does the app have the capabilities to differentiate the coins?
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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It also missed mint mark on Buffalo nickel. Can you run a couple counterfeits and see how it does?
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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Saying only AU or MS doesn't seem very useful to me. Heck even I can grade that well. There's a huge difference between MS60 and MS65 for example, and if it can't distinguish then it has a long way to go. I'm curious if an AU58 coin fools it.
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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I'll stick to what I already know. Not a fan of unproven technology.
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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love that quarter assessment...
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Apparently it doesn't handle weird very well... the only date is 2000 with a D mm. Came back 1992 which is odd. Seems like you can trip it up on purpose. Will need to see if it gets better over time.

Having said that, the grade seems about right.

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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it missed the O mm but the grade seems correct. To me it doesn't seem to be a full dud and appears to have the potential to get better.

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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems that getting the date and mintmark right would be the easy part. I'm sure it will get better as the algorithm improves, but how would it be expected to learn if it doesn't get feedback on the grade from a TPG?
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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought I read that the mint mark had to be added by the user.
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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried it but gave up when it couldn't even get the date right on large coins.
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I can't get the full screen because scrolling down takes away the pictures. But if you scroll down, the app asks you if you were satisfied with the result. If you answer no, then there are options to say what was wrong. So the app provides an easy to use avenue to teach the algorithm. But as with anything else if you put garbage in, it will spit garbage out.


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 Posted 03/15/2023  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least it allows you to add your input if you don't agree.
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I input the top 2 source images and the app created the 3rd image in less than 5 seconds. Amazing. I think this app is awesome just for being able to cut, crop, format, resize and organize the coin images. It even works when the image is upside down. I can cut down hours of coin image formatting. That is awesome.



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