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Just Because You Have Gloves On Does Not Mean You Can Touch Your Coins

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 Posted 06/03/2023  11:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canyonmule to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am pretty new to this hobby and just made a very expensive mistake and hopefully someone will read this and save themself from making the same mistake.

1961 Franklin Proof FS-801

Here's the obverse before I placed it in a 2X2




Apparently I ran my finger across the obv as I put it in the 2X2





Here's detail of the reverse just for giggles ...





Guess I just paid a very high tuition fee for this lesson. Don't make this mistake!
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 Posted 06/03/2023  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% pure acetone ASAP.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canyonmule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@John1

what will the acetone do and what do I do with it?
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 Posted 06/03/2023  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canyonmule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
initial research indicates that method is for cleaning but will do nothing for the scratches on the field just below the L in Liberty

or am I missing something?
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 Posted 06/03/2023  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
White cotton gloves and always hold your coins by the rim. Also, never ever rub the coins. Personally, I would keep Proofs in rounds and not 2 x 2's. Yes, you had a "lesson learned". Don't feel too bad...we've all had challenges along the way. We know your pain!

Are you sure those marks are on the coin and not on the 2x2 cover?
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 Posted 06/03/2023  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canyonmule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@dsking

had while cotton gloves on. it's in a 2X2 plastic flip. I removed it from the flip to get the last pic.

lesson learned ... I hope so. what might have been a PR65 or better is probably 'not gradable with proof like details' or similar?
from possibly $3500 to $300 is quite the lesson no one else needs to learn first hand
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 Posted 06/03/2023  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How did you scratch the surface with a glove?
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 Posted 06/03/2023  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The the coin is 62 years old, had some milk spots on it before the gloved finger left it's trail.

All things considered I wouldn't be ashamed of it. Lesson learned.

The Numismatic PHD "tuition" can be very expensive. I've been working on mine about 65 years and I'm still struggling! Welcome to the club with a very large membership base in it!
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 Posted 06/03/2023  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canyonmule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so do I bother submitting the coin for grading or is it just not worth it now?
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I would get it slabbed to protect it from further damage. I would also ask for the reverse of the coin to be shown on the label side of the slab instead of the usual obverse. I think it will still straight grade but no higher than 64.

My Two Cents.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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what will the acetone do and what do I do with it?

It will remove any oils that might be present and dust/grit. It won't do anything for the scratches.

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so do I bother submitting the coin for grading or is it just not worth it now?
I would still send it in,you could save a bit by sending it to ANACS,but you will get more when selling it if it is in a PCGS slab.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really nice doubling, even with the scratches.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Expensive lesson. Even if a glove is clean, it can pick up specs of grit from the coin, then drag them, leaving hairlines behind.
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 Posted 06/03/2023  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with what Nick said. Also, I've scratched coins getting them in and out of a coin flip too. You'll still get a good grade on your coin but, maybe not as good as it would have been. That's still a very nice Benny!
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 Posted 06/03/2023  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Proof coins are very sensitive to being touched. I scratched one of my proof silver eagles taking it out of capsule to take photos. I usually use latex medical gloves, hold coins on the edge. Anything touching the surface of a proof coin can cause light scratches. I have some cheap coins in 2x2, but prefer round plastic capsules for more valuable coins. That's a cool half dollar!
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 Posted 06/03/2023  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like you already handled them improperly from your first photo.

Fingerprints are Visible.

I'm not sure how you scratched your Coin so bad with gloves on in the first place.
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