1958-D Lincoln To Help Grade? What Do You See To Keep It From 67 Holder

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grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 08/16/2023 07:12 am I took lighter and darker images so you could see the marks. Report this Post to the Staff

BadThad Bedrock of the Community United States 19654 Posts	Posted 08/16/2023 08:31 am The only thing holding it back from 67 is a TPG that purposely holds the top grades back to keep populations artificially low. Lincoln Cent Lover! VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/ Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 17376 Posts	Posted 08/16/2023 08:48 am Do like the spiked head... Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 08/16/2023 09:01 am The shoulder is a bit rough, but it could well make 67. Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 17528 Posts	Posted 08/16/2023 09:30 am I think this one is a tad nicer than the 56D. the fields look cleaner on this one. some of the shoulder, lapel chatter and small marks under CENT can be attributed to the die. you can see this even on some 67 graded coins. looks like some grease strike through of maybe polishing in the area of the PL and top left of the O on the reverse. color looks consistent throughout. rims look pretty clean. good shot at 67RD this would be tough call for me as the difference between MS66 and a 67 is significant where 66's are selling for under $20 and 67's in the $90-110 range. I'm not sure the high end is enough to warrant slabbing but I guess it depends on what your looking for for your collection Report this Post to the Staff
smat45 Pillar of the Community United States 2009 Posts	Posted 08/16/2023 9:19 pm Dang it...clicked on this wanting to see your 67... Obverse die has been worked on...and a little soft for details...and a couple of carbon freckles and that darn hit to the 9...aagh! PL being so soft on the reverse kills it for me... Very Nice 66 Sorry Brother...don't want you to waste your money. 66RD smat Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 17528 Posts	Posted 08/17/2023 07:57 am Smat45. can you expand on your statement that the obv die has been worked on and if you are referring to the shoulder area half of the coins I looked at at 67 looks similar and it does not seem to affect grade except to keep it short of a 67. I didnt catch the hit to the 9 though so good eye on that one. after reading your comments and taking a second look at this one. I agree with your assessment of a 66RD i do agree that the obv strike is a tad weak but I also saw a few that looked similar as well. just look at the top of the head here. the back of the neck area is weaker though heres just one example of a 67 just to compare that shoulder area and hair Edited by panzaldi 08/17/2023 08:01 am Report this Post to the Staff
grospoisson Pillar of the Community United States 984 Posts	Posted 08/17/2023 11:02 am Quote: Dang it...clicked on this wanting to see your 67... Obverse die has been worked on...and a little soft for details...and a couple of carbon freckles and that darn hit to the 9...aagh! PL being so soft on the reverse kills it for me... Very Nice 66 Sorry Brother...don't want you to waste your money. 66RD smat Thanks for feedback, often I overlook the obvious. My photo is from a coin scope which is magnified 30 times or more. The shoulder disturbances are all but invisible to the naked eye and very light with the 5X loupe I use. I also click on as many ms-66's available on ebay as well as using HA.com for 66 and 67 coins to compare. I believe there was a period of time where this coin could have gone 67 but as population increases on PCGS so do the grading standards. After countless efforts to get a 67 on coins before 1968 I have found that a coin must have some type of toning as opposed to the common copper color from the mint. (most of the time). I really struggle with the softness of a strike.My scope picture will never get the actual color of the coin my submissions have grounded to a halt until I can evaluate a little better. Report this Post to the Staff
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