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?dangerous Fake? Phonecia Tyre Shekel

 
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 Posted 09/18/2023  07:02 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrwiskers to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
...does not say "COPY" anywhere on this item...
...probably pewter, 26mm widest diameter, 6.8 grams...
...casting (from a mold) ring around 85% of the rim...
...I wonder where it came from & why it was made ...


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 Posted 09/18/2023  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apparently, this cast is a "Hendin F918.6" from his Not Kosher book. There are several examples of these in the fake reports.


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wonder.why it was made

Really? This type often sells for well over a thousand dollars.

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 Posted 09/18/2023  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since coins were invented fakes have been made to deceive. By US law replicas are supposed be so designated but obviously dishonest people don't follow the law, want to sell a fake as genuine to make money. Or inexperienced people sell fakes not knowing they are fake.

In Greece, Turkey, Egypt, etc. fake ancient coins and objects are made to sell to tourists. Here is pic I found online of a shop near Ephesus selling ancient fakes. I don't think it's legal there to sell genuine ancient coins.

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09/18/2023 07:55 am
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 Posted 09/18/2023  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the type listed in the FORVM fakes database, dating from 2009: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/f...layimage.php

So they've been around a while.

To me, this has all the hallmarks of a "Reader's Digest replica" - mass-produced, not really designed to fool an expert, but plenty good enough to cause confusion once it gets separated from its context - and the card that it was presumably originally attached to. Not sure if Readers Digest itself was responsible for these, or some other mass-marketing company.
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 Posted 09/18/2023  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some museums used to sell replicas of ancient coins which were not marked as replica. I have an Athens tetradrachm replica sold by New York Met. Museum of Art years ago. I don't think they sell them anymore. I also have a "Coins of the Bible" replica set, coins made of pewter, easy to spot not genuine.
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09/18/2023 10:50 am
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 Posted 09/18/2023  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwiskers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, guys ... didn't think it was meant to fool anyone. I used to work & set up estate sales & remember finding this in a drawer with other (non)valuables ... knew it was a replica ... I collect fakes, if, for no other reason, to keep them off of the market ...
...The Hobby Protection Act, passed in 1973, stipulated that replicas have 'copy[b] stamped on the coin ... prior to that, exact replicas gave no indication as such ...
...I also think that this was presented as a copy, study piece, with accompanying literature, not meant to fool anyone ... original owner wasn't a collector ...
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