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For quite a while I had been stymied by Letters that were strongly imposed over the normal letters on a Wellington token dated 1813. I called up some info on the computer and it turned out a discussion forum link had good answers. Gebs (Netherlands) 10/27/2020 had the same questions, and it seems many were overstruck on other tokens. So, problem solved - but I will show you a couple I found in my collection. The problem token is the best .   |
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United States
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Very nice! Cool find.  Errers and Varietys.
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Valued Member
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Thanks, I thought so too.
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Canada
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Isn't that a double struck token? The lettering on Wellington's face looks like the "HAL" of "MARSHALL" to me.
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Isn't that a double struck token? The lettering on Wellington's face looks like the "HAL" of "MARSHALL" to me. I don't think it's the same "HAL", the one on the portrait has much thicker letters, I too believe it's an overstruck. A really neat error. Some coins are well known for the overstrikes, ie: American Large cents on Talbot Allum & Lee British cents are common. As the US was having shortages of copper planchets and several supply ships sank on their way from the Birmingham, UK carrying large amounts of copper planchets to the USA, so the mint substituted what ever they could find.
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Canada
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I remain unconvinced. If overstruck I would expect that the face would be on top of the text. But the text appears to be on top of the face. Also, the position of the "overstruck text" does not match any obvious logical positioning for text on a host token.
I agree the text seems a little bolder but I am going to attribute that to the metal spreading out on the second strike.
The image on the shoulder looks like an E or F. Triple struck?
Time for the error experts to chime in?
Edited by Smallcentguy
10/01/2023 2:14 pm
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United States
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smallcentguy, check the link provided by Spence. These tokens (mine) are struck on Bristol halfpennies, The letters and curved lines line up perfectly with the Bristol halfpennies. Thanks again for the input.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It would help if someone could post one of those clever images that superimposed the host and actual token with the images aligned........
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Netherlands
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I think the first is an overstruck for sure. It is a WA-2Ax type. Charlton also mentions that these penny are mostly struck over Bristol halfpenny Check this link for a picture of a bristol half penny token https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...a321433.htmlthe HA you see are the start of Half en the E is the E from Token. The second is also an ovestruck als an half penny considering the H. I think this is a WA-2Bx type, Charlton doen't mention oversturcks but I don't think it is the first Edited by Gebs
10/03/2023 2:01 pm
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Canada
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Ah I guess that the HA make sense there. Thanks! I agree on overstruck.
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United States
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Thanks again, guys. Dealing with this taught me more.
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