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1921 P Standing Liberty Quarter. Fake .

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 Posted 11/06/2023  12:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Saw this today and I'm very certain it's a fake on a likely silver planchette. I couldn't weigh it out of the flip but it felt right in hand. It's priced at €120... Which is part of the reason I'm hesitant about everything in Rome...

Confirmation? Or are the casting bubbles on the reverse correct?

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 Posted 11/06/2023  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks fake to me. The 9 and 2 of the date are completely wrong. The denticle details above the head obscure the markers for this date. The reverse is missing details in the lettering (E's) and other problems that scream fake.
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11/06/2023 1:00 pm
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 Posted 11/06/2023  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloIronTail to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin in question looks like a cast counterfeit. The 1921 coins were struck with more care and all exhibit a decent, if not hammered strike. The reverse of the coin in question is way too lightly struck at the very least.

Those raised "lumps" and a shoddy looking rim only add to the dubious nature of the authenticity.

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 Posted 11/06/2023  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clearly fake to me. The E's in United States are kinda funny, considering they're not really "E" (missing middle crossbar). It seems to have circulated quite a bit so I wonder if it was a contemporary counterfeit. The price of silver during this era was such that you could make fakes out of real silver and double your money - there was less than 12 cents worth of silver in a quarter.
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 Posted 11/06/2023  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone.

Just to note, I did NOT buy this coin.

It didn't look right in hand before even examining under a loupe.

It does have some circulation wear.

This is how coin shops are in Rome. I get decent stuff at melt or slightly above, but there's always risk.

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 Posted 11/06/2023  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, this is a counterfeit.
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 Posted 11/07/2023  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, Chinese fake.
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