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1864 2c Large Date. Is It Fake?

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 Posted 01/16/2024  02:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Megenkw1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I was pretty ignorant at one point(aren't we all) and thought it was a good idea to pay entirely too much money for a 2C coin I found online from some random auction on hibid. I thought it was a really cool coin! HA! Anyways long story short, I've had it for a long time now and was thinking about selling it on ebay or something, but I got to really wondering if it's not fake. I thought it was the second I laid my eyes on it. Well, the second it was in my hand and I laid my eyes on it, but I figured at the time there was nothing I could do about it if it was fake, so I put it in a new coin flip, put it in my collection, and moved on. Fast forward to today and I really don't want to pass on this inconvenience if the coin is fake! That would just hurt the integrity collecting coins if you ask me. So ill post some crappy pictures from my phone and you guys let me know what you think! I will greatly appreciate everyone who is about to tell me I got ripped off! : ) thanks!

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 Posted 01/16/2024  02:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Megenkw1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be clear, immediately I noticed the texture of the coin is not smooth at all, but I've seen many coins like that that wouldnt make any sense to be fake so thought there could be a small chance that maybe it's just weathered or something. But it looks like it's electroplated? I know the pictures suck, sorry!
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 Posted 01/16/2024  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo Boguss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you weighed it?
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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6.1 so it weights perfect..
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I feel this coin is genuine but environmentally corroded OR struck on rusted dies. Enough detail exists to put this coin in the EF-40ish range. It would also be the much more common large motto...
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There is no Two Cent Piece that is struck from these rusted of dies. Nor any other contemporary strike of any US type that exhibits this extreme texture except for restrikes, such as the restrike 1804 large cent. Usually rusted dies have very small patches of rust that can be hardly noticeable.

I say genuine, extremely corroded from natural circumstances or something more extreme like salt water or acid.
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Can you take photos of the coin out of the holder?
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Looks genuine with environmental damage.
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It's in great shape minus how grainy it looks so thats what is throwing me off. And yes it is the much more common variety unfortunately. Here are afew more shots I managed to get..


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Looks like an AU details coin with environmental damage.
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Agree. to the CCF!
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Thanks guys : )
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To be honest not really getting any counterfeit vibes looking at it. The details aren't mushy and I don't see any of the pitting that comes from the facsimile of a coin.
Plus it isn't the small motto, so I can't imagine counterfeiters trying to take a relatively common coin. If the measurements (weight, diameter etc.) are on point then I would say it's for sure genuine.
Good on you to be diligent tho!
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