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Occasionally I see coins with letters that look like those circled in red below on this dime. Can't imagine this is an engraving mistake, so would this just be die damage or some sort of debris filling in the spot on the die preventing the subsequent imprint when stamping the planchet?  Edited by adam126402
01/20/2024 10:00 pm
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@adam, can you please add date and mintmark info for this dime? Having that in the thread title helps improve the CCF search functionality. Thx.
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Bedrock of the Community
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adam126402, there was a recent thread about this phenomenon on Shield nickels (see link below). The consensus seems to be a combination of late die state and overpolishing of the dies. https://goccf.com/t/455587 Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Hondo, thanks for the link.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Hub issue?
Errers and Varietys.
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Errers, I don't think it's a hub issue. I looked at quite a few 1870 Shield nickels and it seemed that there was a progression of disappearing letter parts. Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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I've seen it on 1900 quarters too. Seems like aggressive die polishing is the answer. Since these examples are all out towards the rim I wonder if the dishing of the dies is part of it.  |
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I vote die polishing
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That's some pretty intense polishing and in a very specific spot. I'd think of it was die polishing you'd see a more gradual progression from the device is visible to the device is not visible. These seem like a sudden drop off instead.
I will caveat all of my comments with fact that I am not all that knowledgeable in this particular subject area.
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As I recal, this phenomenon is also found on some Indian cents of 1888. Edited by Coinfrog
01/22/2024 4:51 pm
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I've been aways too long. Error and varieties was on the right track, the coins shown in the thread are examples of hub breaks. The hub has the raised design on it like the finished coin. If the lettering chips off on the hub it isn't there to create the incuse image in the die. And then that die strikes coins with the same "chipped" letter. The top of the first S in States is a common spot for a hub break, also the top of the D in UNITED. Hub breaks can be seen on many 19th century coins but the one that is best known for them in the 1868 rev of 68 Shield nickel, All of the rev of 68 rev dies were made from the same hub, It starts out perfect and then if I remember the order correctly develops hub breaks at the top of S1, then the bottom of S3, then the bottom of C2, the top of D1, and the left top of A1. If you have a copy of the CherryPickers Guide that covers nickels you will find them listed there and in the correct order. Two Cent Pieces almost always come with a hub chip on the top of the D in UNITED sometimes just the upper serif and sometimes the top of the D in open |
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Good information, Conder101. Thank you.  I had a feeling I was on the right track. Errers and Varietys.
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