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IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 33743 Posts	Posted 01/26/2024 12:51 pm Artificial, but I have to admit, it did improve the eye appeal of those coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4398 Posts	Posted 01/26/2024 1:31 pm Quote: I think this coin would straight grade VF-35 all day long. Above was your comment after toning on the 1807 that was disturbing. I can only judge the coin on the photos and most of the hairlines were not visible on the after photo. There is a scratch on the 1812 above the eagle's head on the after photo it looked more like a mark than a scratch. I have no problem with you doing toning experiments to gain knowledge, and I will take you at your word that you have no intentions of selling deceptive toned coins for profit. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 164405 Posts	Posted 01/26/2024 1:34 pm Quote: You cannot define artificial color. I agree, because it is a deceptive term. In my opinion, the only difference between what you did and what others would call "natural" is time. Remove time as a known quantity and no one would know the difference. What remains is eye appeal, which determines whether the coin is market acceptable. I wonder how different the opinions would have been if you had first posted the after images for comment without their backstory... Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3734 Posts	Posted 01/26/2024 1:53 pm Quote: Quote: I think this coin would straight grade VF-35 all day long. Above was your comment after toning on the 1807 that was disturbing If you were to ask me last year before I toned the coin, I would say it may straight XF-40. This coin has good luster which was slightly dimmed down in the toning process. Looking past strike weakness as wear, the coin now matches many VF-35 examples. A grade is a grade... If I picked up the coin on the left and said, I think this could be a 58... would you be disturbed? Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
jacrispies Pillar of the Community United States 3734 Posts	Posted 01/26/2024 2:00 pm Quote: In my opinion, the only difference between what you did and what others would call "natural" is time. Remove time as a known quantity and no one would know the difference. Very true. This simulated the coins being held in the same flips for 50 year storage. Same exact result, with less time being used. Keep in mind, helping silver tone in a matter of months is not an instant result, but a natural process. Quote: I wonder how different the opinions would have been if you had first posted the after images for comment without their backstory... "So Original!!" Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955 Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4398 Posts	Posted 01/26/2024 2:25 pm If I picked up the coin on the left and said, I think this could be a 58... would you be disturbed? Yes, it is disturbing that PCGS could grade the same coin at VF35 and AU58, but that is another topic. Report this Post to the Staff
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