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 Posted 03/26/2025  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We are now at 1334 AD, and it's time for my long-promised 734 AH coin...



Golden Horde, time of Muhammad Uzbek Khan
Bulghar mint?, [73]4 AH
obverse: tamgha of Batu in pentagram, date between rays
reverse: Arabic inscription ("pul of Bulghar"?) in eight-lobed shape
Numista 224669, Zeno cat. 10665

Note that the digits are in reverse order compared to the Numista drawing (the top of the 4 is visible at 7h on the first pic). Compare the drawing at Zeno 18681 with the same order as on my coin.


Current gap listing: 1464-2, 1457, 1454, 1446, 1414, 1409-7, 1385-1, 1367, 1363, (1361?,) 1360, 1356, 1350-44, 1342-39, 1337-5. We have crossed the 90% coverage point somewhere in the early 1340s and are now at a bit below 89%.
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We are now at 1334 AD, and it's time for my long-promised 734 AH coin...
Outstanding!
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 Posted 03/28/2025  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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We are now at 1334 AD, and it's time for my long-promised 734 AH coin..


@j1m Yes, worth the wait. This one is comparatively rare, a nice acquisition.
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 Posted 04/08/2025  05:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I need to do some catch-ups. Apologies for the delay, some issues have kept me occupied elsewhere for the most part.
Starting off with a AH729 (1329 CE) Delhi Sultans AR tanka with a written date.


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Next is a Delhi Sultans AH727 (1327 CE) 10 Gani -

Reverse is rotated -90 deg to show the date
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 Posted 04/08/2025  05:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another Delhi 10 Gani for 1326 CE
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 Posted 04/08/2025  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For 1325, here is a Delhi 4 Gani

I'll post some more tomorrow, time is short tonight.

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 Posted 04/08/2025  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I need to do some catch-ups. Apologies for the delay, some issues have kept me occupied elsewhere for the most part.
No problem, just happy you are here.

Nice examples!
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 Posted 04/08/2025  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent coins!
As a reminder, AFAICT we're at 1321 at the moment, so there's (hopefully) still some catch-up left.

I looked at my "723 AH" and couldn't confirm the date; it's the same type as your 725 AH but I can't quite figure out what the date is. (It's mostly off flan.) I can try to post it anyway after we pass all the dates for that type (so, in about a week) but I'm not sure I could get confirmation.


Updated gap listing: 1464-2, 1457, 1454, 1446, 1414, 1409-7, 1385-1, 1367, 1363, (1361?,) 1360, 1356, 1350-44, 1342-39, 1337-5, 1333-0, 1328, and theoretically 1324-22 but I'm postponing including those in case they show up shortly.
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 Posted 04/08/2025  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bd251 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It took me a while to figure out how to count bd251's coin; the Zeno category has a bunch of 763 AH examples, but they all seem to have the strokes set up differently.
AFAICT it's a double die match to Zeno 117210 - which doesn't have a legible date either, but it's a date-side die match to Zeno 271168, which does. A complicated coin!

Somehow, in all my searching, I missed that there were 763-dated ones as well. I guess that's what I get for trusting Numista on a coin like this before going to zeno

I have two for AH 725

Delhi Sultanate 6 gani


Golden Horde
Uzbek Khan
AE pul
795 (AH 725)
Lebedev #m48a, zeno cat# 6859


Edit: I'm pretty sure these are my last dated coins for a few hundred years.
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04/08/2025 4:56 pm
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I guess that's what I get for trusting Numista on a coin like this before going to zeno
Numista does also cite a dedicated catalog, which also calls it a single-year type. If I hadn't checked Zeno just in case, I'd probably have agreed with you as well...

This kind of coinage is probably a lot more represented in collections now than it was when the catalog was made, due to all the metal detecting finds, and I wouldn't be surprised if the catalog creators hadn't seen any legible 763. In any case, I'm reasonably confident in my reasoning for why your coin was almost certainly originally dated 762 after all.
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 Posted 04/08/2025  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some more catch ups.
1324 Dehli Sultans 4 Gani


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1323 Dehli Sultans 4 Gani


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1322 Dehli Sultans 4 Gani


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1321 Dehli Sultans 4 Gani

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1320 CE AH 720 Dehli Sultanate 2 Gani

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