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Walking Back From 1600 With Dated Coins

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1303 C.E. AH 702 6 Gani - Dehli Sultanate

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1302 CE AH701 2 Gani - Dehli Sultans

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I'm strongly unconvinced that the date on your "AH 701" coin is really 701; I can confirm 70X, but either 2 or 6 would be much more plausible for X than 1 (for a 1 I'd expect a much bigger gap and probably visible traces of the circle).

Without seeing a lot more examples I can't tell for sure if 2 or 6 is more plausible (there's only one Zeno example for either). I'd probably have guessed 6 because of how close the next character is, though.

The others look good (I was a bit doubtful of the 704, but on further look the internal triangle on the 4 is clear).


Updated gap listing: 1464-2, 1457, 1454, 1446, 1414, 1409-7, 1385-4, 1382-1, 1367, 1363, (1361?,) 1360, 1356, 1350-44, 1342-39, 1337-5, 1333-0, 1328, 1309, 1307-6, and we've had every date past that so far (1301 doesn't yet count as a gap because it could still be posted later today).

I'll probably switch the listing back to separate dates (and recheck it) after the next time an existing gap get filled, because that way makes it a lot easier to adjust for those cases.
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While I value your critique on the validity of the "1", I cannot see how you would consider it to be perhaps a "2" . The curvature on the top left of my example runs counter to the curvature of a "2", so I would discard that. The curvature of a "6", while running to the left of the vertical, would run through almost -90 deg to the upright, which would require that "extra" space that you mention. (well I would have thought so anyway, but admittedly I haven't actually seen a "6" in this context, so this is speculative on my part)
On the other hand, some of the "1's" that I have seen are a bit like a sewing needle in shape, as it is in this alternate version of a 710 (below). (Not my coin yet, still deciding If I need it in my collection).

Having said all of that, nonetheless I take your point that the "1" is not totally conclusive, and it would be best left as a faint maybe until a better example comes to light.


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And as luck would have it, I have just found a 1302 AH701 6 Gani. I will post it as a catch up when it arrives in some weeks time.
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1301 CE AH 700
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Date spelled in letters around the outer circle.


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... this alternate version of a 710 (below). (Not my coin yet, still deciding If I need it in my collection).


That example was at least helpful in my understanding exactly what part of the possible 701 is under discussion.
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1299 CE AH 698 2 gani Dehli Sultans

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This belated AH 707 2 gani is on the halfway point of 1307 / 1308, just thought I'd give it a run, even if it doesn't count for either year.

Apart from the odd catch up here and there, I have no more until 1224. Then I have 3 in a decade and none again for four centuries.

edit: I believe Dearborn has a 1280 ....I don't know if it is dated though.

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Very late catch up for me: this Jital from the Sultantate of Delhi that is dated AH 720 = 1320 AD. Looks very similar to the piece posted by @ttk last month.




This is the earliest 14th Century coin of mine with a date. I've got one from the late 13th Century that I should be able to post soon.


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Very late catch up for me: this Jital from the Sultantate of Delhi that is dated AH 720 = 1320 AD. Looks very similar to the piece posted by @ttk last month.
Very nice!
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And as luck would have it, I have just found a 1302 AH701 6 Gani. I will post it as a catch up when it arrives in some weeks time.

As promised, here is a catch up for 1302 (AH701)

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