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The last 8 looks like Die Deterioration Doubling and the rest looks to be from your lighting. Try turning the coin in 1/4 turn increments and see if what you think is doubling is still there. When you do this with true hub doubling, it will not disappear. ADDED: Sorry, your very first post and I did not  you. -makecents-
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11/15/2024 7:46 pm
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Nice die crack but everything else on the reverse and obverse date is caused by Die Deterioration. |
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Thank you all for you input, I wasn't aware that Die Deterioration could cause what I thought to be separation lines in the middle of letters/numbers....continuing to learn, Thanks again |
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Quote:Thank you all for you input, I wasn't aware that Die Deterioration could cause what I thought to be separation lines in the middle of letters/numbers....continuing to learn, Thanks again I've been doing this for awhile now and have still never had anyone tell me what the "separation lines" are. I have deduced on my own that they are due to a combination of deterioration and being a copper plated zinc cent. It either collapses in the center or raises on the outer edges of the letters, or maybe both, very common though on 80's zincolns. Pay attention to what I said about the lighting though, LED lights are horrible about giving you "light induced" doubling, which is what is giving you the look of splits at the end of the letters. You need to defuse your lighting, I fought this for the longest time. Below is a pic of how I defuse my light. I white piece of paper with a hole cut with a hole punch in the center to let the camera see through. Sorry for the tobacco stains on the paper.... 
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Thank You -makecents- I tried and see the difference, wow !!! been fighting my light for too long, thanks for the info
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Not seeing a DDR here. to the CCF! |
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not seeing a DDR here either. |
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thanks for the info 
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FWIW- "Separation lines" are often used to describe Class 2 doubling, especially in the case of the wheat lines on Lincoln cents. Here's one example from Coppercoins.com: 1909 P 1DR-001. (From the description in the link below: "Nice extra thickness and a separation line show on the motto and the wheat stalks.") [url https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds][/url] EDIT- Quote:
... copper plated zinc cent. It either collapses in the center or raises on the outer edges of the letters, This observation is also interesting to me since I've noticed that "collapsing" also. The "collapsing" seems to create raised ridges along the outer (or inner) perimeter of a letter. I have assumed this "collapsing" is due to the zinc oxidizing and dissipating from the center of the letter, while leaving the edges at the original elevation. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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This observation is also interesting to me since I've noticed that "collapsing" also. The "collapsing" seems to create raised ridges along the outer (or inner) perimeter of a letter.
I have assumed this "collapsing" is due to the zinc oxidizing and dissipating from the center of the letter, while leaving the edges at the original elevation. It's odd but only notice this in early zincolns, 82-86, not much after those years, maybe something the mint figured out in time. I remembered going over this with another person posting an issue similar to this. This is their screen shot that I marked up, not the best quality but you can see the sunken areas on their coin too. I think the OP on this post understands splits though, but that was a good link you provided to explain.  
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Posted 11/15/2024 8:26 pm
