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Thank you Moniker  funny thing is that I cannot find this one on Numista  I fear that it may be a copy. After I posted it last night I did some measurements on it and it weighs .2 grams light and 2mm diameter too big. Plus the fact that I cannot find it on Numista at all..  |
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Taiwan
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I picked up one, just came in the mail today.
year 3 (1870) Meiji - Large type
with a countermark upon it.
(it needs a bit of clean up to it but in pretty good shape. You purchased an obvious counterfeit coin and a terrible one at that. You had no idea what you were purchasing. It is obvious that you took the sellers word. The 1870 Yen is a one year type that has a completely different reverse.
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ouch sorry for that purchase Dearborn, I don't recal I have seen these countermarks on early yens, but I know little of these coins
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United States
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You purchased an obvious counterfeit coin and a terrible one at that. You had no idea what you were purchasing. It is obvious that you took the sellers word. The 1870 Yen is a one year type that has a completely different reverse. Yes, as you can CLEARLY see on my post ABOVE yours that I said it was a fake. The seller never showed an image of the reverse. but once I got it, I did some measurements and checked on Numista that it was more than suspect - so there was no need to berate me on it. the obverse image that was listed was not a nice large clear one (first sign I missed) Second sign was the lack of a reverse image. The big mistake I made is that I usually check on Numista on all coins I purchase FIRST, but this time I didn't. I'm blaming it all on the extreme pain I'm in and the meds I'm taking is making things a bit difficult to accomplish what I want to do.
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ouch sorry for that purchase Dearborn, I don't recal I have seen these countermarks on early yens, but I know little of these coins Thanks jbuck and Moniker - I don't know much about these coins, and this was a learning session for me. I had already initiated a return request for it.
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I had already initiated a return request for it.
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I had already initiated a return request for it. Excellent. Was this on ebay? Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Taiwan
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Yes, as you can CLEARLY see on my post ABOVE yours that I said it was a fake I can clearly see where you state "I fear it may be a copy" My intention was not to berate you at all. My apologies. Your admission that the obverse image was not clear and there was no reverse image is certainly an indicator you were fling blind on this purchase. Hopefully you will feel better in the very near future. All the best . Hang in there.
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Hopefully you will feel better in the very near future. All the best . Hang in there. yeah, thank you Everest I have to tell you this - Saitic pain from the lower back all the way down to my now partially numb foot, is the worst pain I have EVER felt. Extremely disabling. you can't, stand, or laydown without creating this terrible pain, forget about sleep, or reaching your feet to get socks and shoes on..
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Sad to hear about your pain Dearborn I hope it gets better. You should treat yourself to a new coin asap
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You should treat yourself to a new coin asap  yes! that is a great idea..
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You should treat yourself to a new coin asap  
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I fear that it may be a copy. After I posted it last night I did some measurements on it and it weighs .2 grams light and 2mm diameter too big.
Plus the fact that I cannot find it on Numista at all. Apart from the general look of the "coin", there's two logical reasons why it is a fake: 1. There are two years that can have "year 3": Yr 3 Meiji , 1870 Yr 3 Taisho ,1914 Year 3 Meiji 1870 doesn't have " 416.ONE YEN.900 on the obverse, but it does on this "coin". 2. The example in question has the obverse design of the 1914 Taisho Year 3 with Meiji overlaid on top, but it doesn't have the reverse design of the 1870 . It should have the original 1870 design. So it's not even a copy, it's a "Fantasy" fake composite of Taisho 3 & Meiji 3. While the reverse design on the 1870 One Yen is unique on the silver One Yen coins, the design is duplicated on the 50 Sen (1/2 Yen) year 3 & 4. These 50 Sen coins are not very expensive in Japan, with EF examples to be found for around $50 USD / 50 EUR.
Edited by Dnas
05/09/2025 6:36 pm
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