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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21645 Posts |
Some people collect worthless World base metal coins over a long period of time, and in the process, end up building an interesting and varied collection.
I am one of those collectors. My World base metal collection will never result in a profit, but has been of considerable numismatic interest to me.
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That is quite apart of spending most of a lifetime of building an also quite valuable 2nd collection of significant numismatic interest, covering all centuries and cultures in bronze silver and gold, after my first house was paid off.
I have never considered using my numismatic interests to build a collection eventually to sell it for a profit.
However, that did in fact happen.
From my early 'teens, I built a collection, that I was forced to sell, to raise a deposit, to begin a mortgage for my first house. That house was paid off on a single income in 7 years, and I ended up saving tens of thousands of dollars in interest payments.
The selling of my first collection was the main reason for that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5732 Posts |
There are key dates and semi key dates coins that have raise significant value over mid to long period of time, say 3-10 years, its the common ones that stay at the same value that buyers aren't interested, unless you are a collector. Other would advice invest in stocks and ETF because coins doesn't generate interest or dividends, but if you like to hold and collect it for whatever reason this hobby can "fix" your mind while other can't.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
94367 Posts |
Can't argue with success!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6120 Posts |
Quote: I have never considered using my numismatic interests to build a collection eventually to sell it for a profit.  but you do get a warm feeling knowing that some coins have gone up by multiples of what was paid.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4682 Posts |
If you want a hobby to make large sums of money, then you might be confused about the difference between a hobby and a business. Investing in anything is business, period, the end.
You fish for fun (and maybe for healthy food). You tie flies and sell a few as a little side gig for pocket cash. But if you are running a little rod-and-reel shop, then it's a business, and if you don't treat it like a business, then it will kick you to the curb. People make that mistake with restaurants all the time. Coin collecting vs. coin investing is no different.
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Valued Member
United States
271 Posts |
Certainly numismatics in the USA is far more popular than philately.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21645 Posts |
@ Greasy Fingers: For a real profit, the multiples of what you paid has to be above the compounded inflation rate. The Government via the Tax Office has a calculator app that allows you to calculate the compounded inflation rate between any two specific dates to prove a real cost base. Any value over that is real profit after selling costs and taxes have also been paid.
Over the last 50 years, numismatic values have very roughly followed the gold price.
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Valued Member
United States
331 Posts |
This thread got me thinking ... Why do I collect coins ? Ultimately, I fell in love with the hobby after being "paid" for a construction job in coins. (homeowner messed up his financing and didn't have the cash) He piled my desk with both silver and gold coins .. the value, I later determined, was very fair. In the process of that determination, I became enamored by the beauty, history, coining process, grading, "feel" and the rest is history. My wife calls me a hoarder, maybe I am, but along the way I have accumulated a bunch of fun and continue to spend hours and hours learning and collecting. LOVE IT !
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5179 Posts |
From my point of view, Coins certainly enriched my life . And as a dealer I made a very nice living , thank you very much . Maybe the OP should try professional tiddleywinks as a career option .
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Moderator
 United States
164048 Posts |
Quote: Philately will get you nowhere. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21645 Posts |
Coins are the hardware of history.
That can apply to American history, ancient history, European history, Islamic history, etc, etc.
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Moderator
 United States
71853 Posts |
Quote: Maybe the OP should try professional tiddleywinks as a career option . with manhole covers...
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
347 Posts |
TinyRetreat has a point. The feel, the history and so on. Not being well off there are gaps in my collection where very expensive coins would otherwise live. I'm not worried about that. I've become interested enough to actually find out more at clubs, meetings, conferences, and goodness me, actually buying books! I've even surprised myself and given a couple of talks and written magazine articles. It's a huge and rewarding hobby. The money side pales into insignificance beside that and I like to think I'm a more mature person because of it all. Those who know me well will deny that though...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
7159 Posts |
Quote: The idea that you will get rich from coins is the biggest lie I've ever heard in my life Who told you that, and why did you decide to believe it? Maybe thinking about those things will help you avoid making similar mistakes in the future.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2026 Posts |
I collect coins for fun, not profit. I daresay that's the reason most of us do.
I will admit that it's fun to think that I might find a rare coin someday in change or on the ground that could pay my bills forever. While extremely unlikely, it is possible.
In the meantime, I'm content with filling my coin folders with coins that are not going to make me rich. When I do fill up a folder, it's extremely satisfying. And that's good enough for me.
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