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Looks Like Some Buyer Will Get Stung On This Alleged Csa Dog Tag On An Alleged 1862-S Half Dollar

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This piece and many like it, bearing the names of actual Civil War vets, began surfacing at flea markets about thirty years ago. While the names and ID info look to have been engraved, they were stamped on artificially-worn disks that resemble coins; typically, Liberty Seated halves and dollars.

A book on these so-called Pender Disks was written some years ago. The CSA, really the CS, never issued these identification disks, a.k.a. "dog tags."

376093043576

Yesterday, I wrote to the seller about this bogus listing. Not surprisingly, he hasn't responded.
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Wow, thanks for the education, ExoGuy! The following article was the top result when I googled the auction title. Evidently the bidiots haven't taken the time to research this item.
Fake Civil War identification discs
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376093043576 - CIVIL WAR CONFEDERATE CSA DOG TAG BELONGING TO ROBERT F. BUNTING 8TH TX CAVALRY
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Unscrupulous! Thank you for the information.
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Take a look at the seller's other items. They all look a bit sketchy to me.
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It's now at $338 with over a day to go.
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The history is interesting, and that's undoubtedly what's driving the price up; this, as is so with counterstamps. That said, this item is fake, so its historical connection is clearly contrived. There's zero provenance ....
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Hate to see scams like this.
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With about seven hours to go, this FAKE piece is at $560! I've been following sales of these and other fakes for going on twenty years. This fake may set a record price

Here are pics of a few others with different names of actual, recorded soldiers. A few of these reside in my black cabinet. The maker-faker of these did his homework. Problem is that multiple specimens of each name exist, so how many ID tags does one rebel need.








I hope that these visual images may help some collectors avoid pitfalls. Forewarned is forearmed
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I didn't report this auction because I want it to be a learning experience for the buyer. The seller should know better - definitely unscrupulous.
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When I attempted to report this item, I was blocked .... "feature replaced." I saw no way to proceed. I'm guessing that, since ebay, Etsy and others are so inundated with fake stuff that their reporting system is overwhelmed.

If I could somehow abandon my conscience, I'd put my entire black cabinet on ebay, play dumb and use the proceeds to take a world cruise.
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It would have taken until the 1880's for an 1862 quarter to get this amount of wear.
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It would have taken until the 1880's for an 1862 quarter to get this amount of wear.


The so-called "wear" on these die-struck fakes is a telling aspect, given the identical appearance to all others; this, regardless of the rebel's name. BTW, this particular piece is more likely half dollar-sized as are most and not a quarter.

Note that the seller lacks mentioning the coin's denomination, thereby leaving it to the buyer's imagination. As such, presumptive buyers may think the seller doesn't know what he really has. Ironically, the opposite is true, and the bidders lack the knowledge needed. The seller plays dumb.

The price realized for this fake was $560 plus postage. Scores like this encourage more unscrupulous listings. Let's see if this seller posts more .....
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