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1879-O Morgan Silver Dollar - Has Anyone Ever Seen A Strike Through Like This?

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 Posted 04/15/2025  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The long vertical mark on this coin is a nice strike through, but the other near the rim are a possible maybe.

I'll look forward to see what PCGS has to say on this one.
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I'll look forward to see what PCGS has to say on this one.
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Nice Morgan,


Wow, Very nice strike through as stated. I am in awe, Very Sweet Find, I see the Reverse has a Main strike through, I noticed it's raised in appearance, I see the Perimeter Strike through too, Very interesting visuals. The perimeter ST looks incused, Not raised.

I am wondering Why there are two differing residual tales seen Here. Two Events, ?

Also " if " the marks were made @ the same exact time, Why different residual findings.

Thanks for Sharing.. Please keep us in the Loop, MD
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Will do, thanks for the kind words!
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I think I understand whats being said here. But if the strike thru was caused by foreign matter and not the die itself then what significance does it have as a collectable ? Would there be a VAM assigned ? Is that why your sending it in ? Thank you.
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@Silverskunk a VAM is a specific die variety, distinguished from other varieties by subtle differences in the design. A strike through is considered a "Mint Error", that is a defect in the coin that occurred during the minting process. The reason I sent it to PCGS was both to verify the nature of the damage (whether it's an actual strike through or post-mint damage) as well as to have it preserved as it would be one of the more significant strike through errors I've seen on a Morgan.
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... the Reverse has a Main strike through, I noticed it's raised in appearance...

A strikethrough is incuse.

My perception gets "inverted" sometimes where an incuse area on a coin will look raised, but I'm confident these areas are incuse.

In general, a strikethrough is foreign matter that has gotten between one of the dies and the planchet. That will leave an incuse (recessed) impression of the object.

There is the chance this was damage to the planchet before the strike. This is still a nice error, whatever it turns out to be.
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I have to agree with Hondo. One nice strike through, and a lot of scrapes.


Even if I already didn't respect Hondo's observations already in my short time here I'd have to agree with him on this even with my untrained eye. The scrapes just seem so obvious and jagged, the last set of pictures removed any doubt.

Check me off with Hondo on this one.
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@Silverskunk a VAM is a specific die variety, distinguished from other varieties by subtle differences in the design. A strike through is considered a "Mint Error", that is a defect in the coin that occurred during the minting process. The reason I sent it to PCGS was both to verify the nature of the damage (whether it's an actual strike through or post-mint damage) as well as to have it preserved as it would be one of the more significant strike through errors I've seen on a Morgan.


I thank you for taking the time to explain. I had already taught myself a bit about the subject. Enough to at least make an observation.

Again many thanks. Lovely coin BTW. Enjoy.
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This is a great photo. The angle and lighting clearly show a frosted incuse texture, which is exactly what to look for in strikethroughs of softer material.

A scrape would smear and smooth the metal, reflecting light in a different way. This photo shows obvious untouched frost maintained from the striking process.
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The angle and lighting clearly show a frosted incuse texture, which is exactly what to look for in strikethroughs of softer material.

This is also what a scrape would look like - surface metal removed revealing the underlying silver.
Also, this particular "strike through" would have to been in three separate pieces ( CA, *, A ), which is very unlikely. The top of the R is also damaged, but not from a strike through.
If a TPG judges this as strike through, I will meekly eat my words. But until then I am convinced that this part of the coin is gouged.
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