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I have been researching plating issues on Copper Plated Zinc Cents. The information I have found has been both interesting and challenging. My research has resulted in some papers I prepared to organize the information in a way that I can understand.
Unfortunately, I have only scratched the surface! It seems that I continue to find significant related aspects that I may yet include in future revisions.
I am sharing one of those papers here in .pdf format.
Click on the link to read.
https://www.coincommunity.com/pdf/P...rugation.pdf


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Although your information is interesting the bottom line is that the Copper plated Zinc core Cent was a disaster from the get go and a big failiour for the Numismatic Community and collectors,might as well US mint eliminate the production of Cents permanently.
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Thank you for this information, Mr. Apple. While 99% of it is over my head (lack of higher math), it was a good read, along with the other links to a more in depth explanation of the occurrence.


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The best (unverified) explanation I can offer for the rippling being
oriented in the same direction on both sides of the planchet/coin is
that the copper plating performs as a single dynamic layer of copper
surrounding both sides of the planchet/coin and distorts as a single
unit rather than two separate, independent halves on either side of
the coin.
Because of the "like" orientation when the coin was flipped, it made sense to me that it was something to do with the zinc, not the copper.

In much simpler terms, could this be considered "memory" of sorts, for the copper?
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Because of the "like" orientation when the coin was flipped, it made sense to me that it was something to do with the zinc, not the copper.

In much simpler terms, could this be considered "memory" of sorts, for the copper?


Thanks for this question! You have forced me to realize the inadequacy of my speculation!

I have found very little help referencing the copper plating interacting with the zinc alloy substrate. I do know that the thinking and justification for including a small amount of copper in the zinc alloy (ALLOY 190: COMPOSITION (% by Weight) Lead = 0.005 max; Iron = 0.010 max; Cadmium = 0.005 max; Copper = 0.7 to 0.9; Zinc = Balance) was to facilitate bonding with the copper plating.

As far as the ridges and valleys being oriented in approximately the same direction on each side, the following explanation has possibilities, although I have not found any research experiments that directly support the hypothesis:

In addition to crystal behavior at the atomic level, Current Density and Electrolyte Flow influence the direction of the formation of the ridges and valleys of a corrugated surface.

A barrel plating process is used and barrel rotation is likely the key factor supporting the same direction ridge/valley orientation on both sides.

-- During barrel electroplating, current density varies (current density variation significantly impacts coating quality, deposition rate, and microstructure) and the electrolyte flow pattern is driven by the rotation of the barrel.

-- In addition, the tumbling action of a metal disc in the barrel plating bath is most likely to be end over end.

This combination of factors is likely a contributing cause for the ridges and valleys on both sides of the planchet being oriented in approximately the same direction.

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Thanks for this question! You have forced me to realize the inadequacy of my speculation!
This was not at all my intention and was not questioning your hypothesis, just the way my very simple mind works. Maybe someone much more on your level will come to this thread and have a meaningful conversation with you and I may learn something.
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I'm glad to see this posted here for the continued information. It seems like this "corrugation" may be easily mistaken for roller lines.

On a related note, do you know of anyone confirming that they use an upset mill to form the proto-rim? I can't remember hearing of anyone being allowed to see their production process.
I've always wondered if the producer of the 1c planchets (Artazn LLC) has produced the zinc planchets in a different manner than the mint use to produce the copper planchets.
Could they be striking the blanks with "forming" dies that could contour the surface allow copper plating to build up thicker in certain areas?

Also, Can you share any info on how they solved the problem of split plating that use to be so prevalent on early zinc cents?

Thanks for all your efforts on behalf of all numismatists.
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There are two primary areas still to be addressed. One is the applicability of studies (as discussed in the paper) of copper deposition at the crystalline level to the corrugation features easily and commonly seen on many CPZ cents.

The other is the mechanism by which the ridges and valleys are oriented in approximately the same direction on both sides of the planchet/coin.

In addition to crystal behavior at the atomic level Current Density and Electrolyte Flow influence the formation, direction and orientation of the ridges and valleys of a corrugated surface.

In research carried out by the Bureau of Mines to develop new technology for electrorefining metals, the hydrodynamics of electrolyte flow were studied:

"The cathode deposits are relatively smooth but with striations or grooves running parallel to the electrolyte flow. Many of the striations were continuous along the entire length of the cathodes. Their origin is believed to reflect the hydrodynamic flow conditions close to the surface. It appears that either a ridge or groove, once initiated at the front edge of the cathode, propagates along the entire length."

(https://www.911metallurgist.com/blo...ing-copper/)
{In barrel electroplating, the object being plated acts as the cathode}
[This experiment uses multichannel cells which are not utilized in barrel plating. I am assuming, however, that similar results arise from electrolyte flow patterns produced by barrel rotation.]

A barrel plating process is used by the supplier of Cent Ready-to-strike (RTS) planchets for the US Mint. Barrel rotation is likely a key factor contributing to the formation of ridges and valleys and in their alignment in the same direction on both sides of the planchet/coin.

Current density varies, resulting in thicknesses that vary.

An electrolyte flow pattern is driven by the rotation of the barrel, resulting in striations or grooves running parallel to the electrolyte flow.

The result of these dynamics builds on the crystal orientation patterns developed at the atomic level.

The tumbling action of a metal disc in the barrel plating bath, as the barrel rotates, is most likely to be end over end, resulting in electrolyte flow patterns being in approximately the same orientation on both sides of the planchet.
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It seems like this "corrugation" may be easily mistaken for roller lines.



The irregular shape of individual ripples indicates that they are not planchet striations (Roller Lines), which are expected to present a more linear morphology.

Example of Roller Lines from Error Ref:



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On a related note, do you know of anyone confirming that they use an upset mill to form the proto-rim? I can't remember hearing of anyone being allowed to see their production process.
I've always wondered if the producer of the 1c planchets (Artazn LLC) has produced the zinc planchets in a different manner than the mint use to produce the copper planchets.
Could they be striking the blanks with "forming" dies that could contour the surface allow copper plating to build up thicker in certain areas?


I am unable to confirm the upsetting method used, however I think from the standpoint of production efficiency, an upsetting mill would be the preferred option.

We know that plating thickness does vary on individual pieces and probably is significantly thicker on proof coins (I will post a paper dealing with proof coin plating), so it is not necessary to posit an irregular surface for the zinc alloy substrate.

I have found minimal evidence to suggest plating irregularities are due to characteristics of the zinc alloy substrate outside of the possibility of an improper alloy mix contributing to a lack of bonding. A small amount of copper is added to the alloy to facilitate bonding and if there happens to be an improper mix, then conceivably separation may occur. I think the odds of an improper mix are inconsequential since there is such a tiny amount of copper included. ZINC ALLOY 190: COMPOSITION (% by Weight) Lead = 0.005 max; Iron = 0.010 max; Cadmium = 0.005 max; Copper = 0.7 to 0.9; Zinc = Balance.
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Also, Can you share any info on how they solved the problem of split plating that use to be so prevalent on early zinc cents?


I will be uploading a paper on plating cracks and splits, but to summarize, I think that there was a fairly lengthy learning curve by the planchet supplier in executing the plating process.

Plating splits as a result of a suboptimal radius at the corner of a device and the field and because of irregularities in the plating process causing inherent plating stress.

These irregularities may include:

Current Density variations

Bath chemistry: Impurities or incorrect concentrations of
chemicals in the plating bath can significantly affect the
deposition process, leading to uneven plating.

Agitation: Insufficient agitation can create "dead zones" in
the plating bath where the solution is not properly mixed,
causing uneven deposition.

Workpiece geometry: Complex shapes can create areas
with varying current densities due to the way the electric field distributes across the surface.

Temperature variations: Fluctuations in bath temperature
can affect the deposition rate and uniformity.

Surface preparation: Poor cleaning or surface irregularities
can lead to uneven plating.

Hydrogen embrittlement

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That is really good insight into one of the criticisms of the plating.

There is another step in the process used to make the plated planchets. It's apparently an ARTAZN trade secret as to how it is done, but the plating is double thickness on the edge. Whatever the process, this step may be worth considering in the analysis. There is also some indication that the plating thickness may have been increased after the date of the following report. If so, the date of the coin may be an additional factor to consider. Here is the report information.

The Final Report, Alternative Metals Study (for circulating coinage), submitted to the US Mint by Concurrent Technologies Corporation under Contract Number TM-HQ-11-C-0049, 2012.
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the plating is double thickness on the edge.

the plating thickness may have been increased after the date of the following report.


Thanks for this information. I have a copy of the report and have referenced it frequently over the years, but have not found the information you mention. Would you be willing to provide the page numbers for these references?

I am aware that because of plating dynamics, the plating is thicker at the outer edge of the planchet ---> perhaps that is what you mean?
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The double plating on the edge is mentioned in other materials. There is a mint report on it somewhere, and the Jarden/ARTAZN website mentioned it at one time. I can try to search for my materials on this. It is the edge itself, and not the surface near the rim, that has double plating.

I thought of two more things to consider. First, unlike other planchets, the mint does not anneal the zinc cent planchets before striking. Annealing is done by ARTAZN, but when and how in their process seems to be another mystery. Second, some of the zinc cents were in the toxic soup of the flooding following Hurricanes Katrina and Harvey. Some of these survived and were acid cleaned to return them to circulation. Broze cents that went through this cleaning have a readily identifiable orange tinge, even in circulation today. I haven't seen enough of the surviving zinc cents to have a good feel for what the treatment did to them.
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Annealing is done by ARTAZN


My understanding is that the zinc alloy is self-annealing and that annealing does not exist in the process for cents.

Planchets are shipped to the mint Ready To Strike

APPRECIATE YOUR HELP!!
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