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Is This 1939 Jefferson A Double Monticello?

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Please let us know the results then.
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I'm planning on going to my coin shop here in a little bit. For now, I'm almost certain I've already figured out that my 1939 Jefferson, is DDR-007 RDV-002... I will update the group with what the shop owner says, later on this afternoon!

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Got to my coin shop and he wasn't interested in searching the 18 different DDR varieties, to confirm my DDR-007 RDV-002. Wasted trip more less, he thought it was the 1939 with the 38 reverse and wasn't very knowledgeable &
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Y'all must be seeing something I can't because I've gone through over 250 Nickels with a 30x magnifier and this is the only Nickel I have seen that has these markings.

In the past two years, I have searched over 40000 nickels. About half of those were examined under 10x magnification (far more if you include the way that the iPad screen increases the image size). At this point, I'm pretty confident in my ability to call DDD and MD on Jefferson nickels. That is not to say that it's impossible that your coin is a minor doubled die—some DDO and DDR present similar to MD—but 1939 nickels have been scrutinized for decades and new finds are not probable.

Since you examined 250 nickels, the first question I would ask is what years were the coins? Machine Doubling is a result of minting technology. The machinery changes periodically at the mint, resulting in different appearances to MD. The same is true of Die Deterioration. Some years the Mint appears to have been conscientious in pulling old dies. Other years, particularly 1954-1964 and 1980-1990, they ran the striking dies straight into the grave.


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Got to my coin shop and he wasn't interested in searching the 18 different DDR varieties, to confirm my DDR-007 RDV-002. Wasted trip more less, he thought it was the 1939 with the 38 reverse and wasn't very knowledgeable

That is unfortunately going to be the case at the vast majority of coin shops. Variety coins are a specialized niche. You can find helpful people on forums like CCF and CONECA, but the odds of them being geographically nearby are slim.
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1938-1968. I started saving them at age 8 and stopped around 16ish. I'm 44 now and just decided to go through and see what all I have. So Numismatics is something sorta new to me and I have a lot yet to learn.
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Okay, I understand that maybe its not the exact DDR-009 but I'm almost 1000% sure that it is a DDR, and if this is the case... Is it worthy of grading?

Specifically to the question about grading, it is almost never to your financial advantage to get a minor variety graded. You grade mostly for preservation, registry sets, insurance, or sale. That probably goes 10x for circulated coins.
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Yes sir, I understand... I see they sell for $100+ on ebay PCGS in this XF condition. I wanted to grade it just to preserve it and protect for the long haul. I wasn't wanting to sell it.
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Got to my coin shop and he wasn't interested in searching the 18 different DDR varieties, to confirm my DDR-007 RDV-002. Wasted trip more less, he thought it was the 1939 with the 38 reverse and wasn't very knowledgeable
Bummer.

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So Numismatics is something sorta new to me and I have a lot yet to learn.
You have come to the right place.
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Preservation is a fine goal. The folks here can talk you through conservation with pure acetone and storage in an AirTite capsule, flip, or hard case.

The $100+ prices are for the big dog 1939 Doubled Monticello in XF grade. That is a major Jefferson nickel variety and chased by many, many collectors. Also important to know: for any coin that trades with any frequency, look at the Sold prices, not the asking prices. Novices and predators alike will ask for insane prices on ebay.

A minor Jefferson nickel variety in presentable circulated grade might run $10-20, depending on the attractiveness of the coin and the strength of the variety.
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Figured that on the coin shop. And as Brand explained it has to be a very good error or variety to warrant the cost of slabbing.
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Well I appreciate everyone's input and knowledge that you've shared with me! I've learned a lot over the past week and I'm pretty happy I discovered I have an Error Variety and today I found a 1941 D DDR! Not as good as condition as the 1939 but still neat!🏼




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