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1958-P 1c DDO BN. New Variety. Zoom In! Detailed Red Arrows!

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There are two known DDOs for 1958. There is the major DDO, with only three known examples. And there is a minor Class V DDO affecting the TRU of TRUST that is only listed on Copper Coins as 1958P-1-DO-001.

Your coin is not the major DDO.

If you think it could be the minor DDO, check the link. I can't see the shadowed area next to the TRU clearly enough in your photos, and you don't have the whole-coin photos needed to see the extensive die polishing and known markers. You may want to look at that listing if you see doubling that your photos can't show. There are die markers for it, but I've seen quite a few of them in hand, and the die pair had an incredible amount of harsh die polishing on both the obverse and reverse. It's an easy DDO to spot in hand because of the polishing lines.
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Cannot be Die Deterioration as the letters are not bulged, not fuzzy, they are the right heights, depths, widths, the letters are in regular form for a standard coin. Beneath the letters slightly above the remnants of the previous strike are abundantly clear with Sharp defined line above the branches of "U" and above the "N" in the "In God We Trust".
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The shadow like doubling is Die Deterioration.
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Can you not zoom in on the photo? I can e-mail you a HD image.
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to the CCF If you think your coin looks anything like the real 001, stick around here for a few weeks. Your opinion will change.
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I definitely am not saying it's the 001. But why is the lettering the perfect dimensions but with all that underneath?
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Not a variety of any kind.
It is Die Deterioration Doubling.
The worn die is causing the metal to flow towards the rim
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