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 So what do you think is this a cameo, what exactly do I have here, and is it valuable
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@tham, first welcome to CCF. Second, can you please remove this coin from the 2x2 and take in-focus pics of both sides? Please also add the weight. Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Bedrock of the Community
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 to the CCF Much better pictures needed. No way of seeing if there is al or not. We have to be able to clearly see the detail of BOTH sides.
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Bedrock of the Community
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to the CCF
Take a look at my other hobby ... https://www.jk-dk.artToo many hobbies .... too much work .... not enough time. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm gonna say counterfeit, as the digits in the date look all wrong and nothing like a genuine coin. And yes, it is generally better to take coins out of their 2x2s to better see details, but to me, it's those digits... 
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Pillar of the Community
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 Better pics needed and the date looks funky to me too. Coin has that look of a fresh off the Chinese press with some artificial toning to give it some aged look.
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Pillar of the Community
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The reverse confirms it is a fake. The genuine has a shallow N while this example shows a bold N.
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Pillar of the Community
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Please note the differences between a shallow N and a bold N. The genuine 1864L should have the Shallow N type reverse. Your coin has the Bold N type reverse.  |
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Not an expert on IHCs by any means, but the "1" in the date looks way off to me, both position and the thinness of it. Looking at PCGS, I see nothing like it.
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I don't know where you got the above information but looking at the PCGS site for every 1864L both business strike and proof examples, Unlike your coin, Every specimen shows the Shallow N reverse. Look at the shape of the centers of the E's and the extended serifs on the N's. Even the comparison pictures you posted of proof coins shows this same Shallow N reverse. Secondly I don't see the strong strike characteristic of a proof coin on your specimen. Lack of detail on the ribbon with diamonds and lack of denticles on a good portion of the obverse along with no mirror surface. It doesn't look like a proof coin to me and even if it were I have yet to see a specimen with the bold N reverse.
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Tham88, I challenge you to find any 1864L proof or business strike where the flag tip on the "1" is in such close proximity to the bust tip and in the exact same position/orientation on the coin. As previously mentioned, in looking through PCGS for 1864L IHC, ive not seen such a skinny "1" on any of the varieties. Then there are the issues mentioned by Mister T, and mrwhatisit. As said, I'm not the expert by any stretch on IHC, but this looks squirrelly, IMO.  So I decided to do a little more looking for comparable examples, and I found this, but the "1" are still not the same nor is the reverse a match to yours. And, by the way, welcome to the CCF!  Edited by adam126402
04/26/2025 8:26 pm
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