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1919-S Buffalo - Two Feather?

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 Posted 05/16/2025  05:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Buffalo soldat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm increasingly curious about two feather Buffs, but only more recently, and I'm still unsure about them. Is there a total absence of any bit of the third feather? Because I feel like I'm seeing a vestigial feather just off the back of his head, but when I look at photos of them round about the web I feel like I see vestigial bits of the third feather on all of them.




Mods: should this be in "Varieties and errors"?
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Don't think that would make the cut. Here is an example of a 21 - no remnants remain


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There are two different 1919-S obverse dies that have been considered as 2F. On one die, a shadow of the third feather exists into late die stage. On the second die, repeated polishing eliminated all but a lump near the top of the right side of the third feather. Neither 1919-S has the entire third feather missing.

Your coin appears to be the first die, with the shadow remaining. From the die gouges, your coin seems to have been struck fairly early after a die polishing, but not the first die polishing.

Ron Pope listed both as 2F coins, but considered the second die to be "more" of a true 2F, if that makes sense.

Short answer is that it met Ron's criteria for a 2F.

You have a nice specimen, both higher grade and a fairly early die state of the variety. That date and mint in general has a lot of coins from badly overworked dies.
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Thanks for both replies so far. Much appreciated. I had a sense, fortcollins, that there might be some nuance in what constitutes a two-feather. I do have "Two-feather?" written on the holder a few years ago, which is when I first started exploring them, although I've actually had this one for almost a decade. This is my best 1919-S as well, so nice that it's actually a two-feather of some sort.

Good to better understand the process that led to them. I did also find the PCGS link below after I posted this and recalled having read it before, but it was a year or three ago. I'll share it again for the benefit of those like myself who are still early in the process of understanding these niche coins.

I'll also see about getting a photo of the reverse of it. I was so focused on the obverse at the time I don't appear to have taken any photos of the reverse.

https://www.pcgs.com/news/scarce-tw...falo-nickels
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