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1831 P Coronet Liberty Head Large Cent Newcomb-12/1 Large Letters (Bought Off Of USA C B)

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I bought this off of USA C B for 30.00 plus 1.65 for shipping. I later found out that it was the Newcomb-12 Large Letters variety. Pretty nice surprise. The Newcomb-12 variety was not noted in the listing. It was graded at Good. Would it straight grade? https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin...ers-bn/36988
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@e&v, while this coin is a specific variety, it seems like your question is more directed to the condition and grade so I'm going to move this thread over to that sub.

Sorry that I can't help you with a grade. The ding at 12 o'clock is unfortunate, but hopefully not too extreme to prevent straight-grading.
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Nice coin for the price, Errers. I'm not sure that it would straight-grade - some of the scratches seem intentional.
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Thank you, Spence, numismatics student, and Hondo Boguss. Not sure if it'll straight grade, since there's old scratches and a ding at 12:00. I'm still happy to own it either way.
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Any more thoughts about the grade? Will it straight grade or not?
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I'd grade it VG10 details net AG3 to G4.

My early coppers are not encapsulated, so not an expert here, but, as far as I understand TPG criteria, this coin would not straight grade. It shows a fair bit of surface distractions which they would possibly describe as 'damage'.

Note am 1831 N-12/1, R-2 sold this WE at the EAC sale:
https://www.icollector.com/1831-N-1...G4_i56080610
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This could straight grade but given the value of the coin, it would not be a good candidate for grading. The fees would exceed the value of the coin even in a straight graded holder.
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Thank you both for your comments. I don't plan on getting it slabbed by a TPG. GERMANICVS, so it'll grade VG details, but the net grade is AG3 to G4? Just trying to understand it better.
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Thank you, panzaldi for your comment. I appreciate it.
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one was remember that copper is fairly soft so it doesn't take much to take hits and marks banging around in a pocket with other coins for decades. could it grade straight? I think its just too much even in that lower grade. the almost hole at K12 could have been intentional in an attempt to make a necklace as well as some of the marks near the rim in the fields from K4-K7 obv could be intentional as well. they don't look like typical marks from getting knocked around. there's a lot of history here.
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