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I Try Learning From You (1971 Lincoln Cent)

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 Posted 05/21/2025  12:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Apprendice to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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Hi you all

i need a clarification for something that takes me wonder and I have not managed to solved.
We all agree that the DD besides the more appreciated, it is the more difficult to spot for the unexperienced eyes. -At least it is my opinion.

DD when there are outstanding besides beautiful are out of questions, the problem comes when there are DD but there so close to each die hit that confuse easily to the newbie.
On those cases where involved the cents because the size are even more hard to find the truth.
I have been looking pictures at those cases, and in my mind, DD has to have 3 line in that same font edge or side- 2 are the normal, right?
But there are another trick, when watching with a cheap microscopy from Temu, the lights sent to the coin it is straight down and intense at it comes by diode lights and its generate a shadow all around the fonts making DD if it is no very conspicuous hard to spot.
I managed to slant so the light angle can point to the edges or border clearer, but them it surprise me that now many of my 1970 cent looks like come alive, and show as possible DD. Wow!
I need your advise please, so I can understand better fake from true.

I going to post some pictures one or two classic DD from the web, and some mine so confusing, so you better give me your input.
I used blue lines to try to show the different lines seen.

Thanks in advance for you advice to better spot and take picture to rule out the true and the fake.



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@app, glad you are here learning! Can you please clarify if you mean "doubled die" or "die degeneration" with DD above? I think that you mean the former, but want to make sure. Thx.
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Yes, Double Die, I meant- I think I have to be acquaintance with the exact terminology. Thanks for you reply.
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Ok good to know. Both pics from the web show somewhat subtle doubling; however, if you look at the bottom of the number 9 in that second pic, you will see a split. For me at least, that is a tell-tale sign of a doubled die. The IGWT (first pic) seems to have doubling on the horizontal bar of the letter T, but I'm not positive.

Please duplicate these close-up images with your coin and post to this thread so that we can compare. Thx.
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Not seeing a Doubled Die with these pictures.
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It must perfectly match one of the listings at varietyvista.com. All the doubled die coins made from one set of dies have got to be exactly the same b/c the process they go through to make the dies makes it impossible for coins coming from those dies to vary at all.

https://www.coinnews.net/2014/01/06...oduce-coins/
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I cannot tell if your coin is a DDO because your images are too far away to see details (like the examples you posted)
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Good Morning Mr. Spence

I am sorry for my delay to relay you. So apparently so simple as seen the details on the tip it was an ordeal which a cheap microscopy from shade to highlight unable to see on details. But I finally manage and that tip make the difference. I did not post the picture since it clear there are no double die. Thank you for the real clue.
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