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Australian 5 cent die changes and coin varieties

 
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Australia
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 Posted 07/16/2018  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Don't you all mean small SD or tiny SD in the above few posts?


Yes but as hans g said the position of the echidna differs too, and at least that's what I use when checking coins from change.

How many anniversary 2016 5c pieces have you looked at? I've only seen maybe eight in total which is hardly enough to say they're all tiny SD for sure.
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Australia
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 Posted 07/21/2018  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agent86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes but as hans g said the position of the echidna differs too, and at least that's what I use when checking coins from change.

Me too. Unfortunately the tiny SD description is firmly entrenched.

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How many anniversary 2016 5c pieces have you looked at? I've only seen maybe eight in total which is hardly enough to say they're all tiny SD for sure.

Thousands I'd guess. But they are all sourced in Melbourne so what I am seeing is mainly coins released here.
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 Posted 07/27/2018  06:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh nice - I think it's safe to say they don't exist then.
I haven't seen a whole lot 2017 5c pieces yet (and only have an unopened bag of 2018 5c pieces from the Road Show) but given the last circulating one was 2014 I don't expect there will be many if any.
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 Posted 09/14/2018  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've now looked through 43 2017 5c pieces and they're all tiny SD/high echinda (unsurprisingly).
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 Posted 10/23/2018  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schoza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all. I was just wondering if it was possible that the 1984 5 cent had 3 varieties?
The (top coin) low sd has a similar rim to the middle coin yet the bottom 2 coins have the same echidna.
Cheers
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 Posted 10/25/2018  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there are only two varieties - the rims on these coins can be pretty variable (quite a lot have the little inside rim like the top and bottom coins).
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 Posted 10/26/2018  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schoza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cheers Mr T, I appreciate the reply, I realize that I am a noob and there r probably a lot of people rolling there eyes at my question lol and I know I still have a lot to learn, but for some reason I really enjoy noodling( bit of ocd maybe), so do u think it is PMD or die change? Also can u recommend a few good sites to do some homework?
Cheers
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 Posted 10/26/2018  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a worry!
I'm not sure what the cause was but you sometimes see coins with rims that slope down to the design rather than being a vertical edge (possibly die wear?) and sometimes you see a small lip inside the rim (not sure what causes it) but they can make it a real hassle to identify coins with designs that either near to or far from the rim.

https://www.australian-coins.com/ is a pretty good resource.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  03:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schoza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all, has anyone found a 1983 variety, I've found 2 so far, curious to see how long it will take for someone to find it ;, also found a few 1976 coins with the same error as a 1996 coin, have fun
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11/16/2018 03:57 am
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 Posted 11/16/2018  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the 1976 you've found an upset?
I don't look at the 1983s only because there are no varieties reported - what have you found?

I've seen one 2018 too and it's a high echidna.
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 Posted 11/16/2018  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schoza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it has 10-15% like the 96, seems to be reasonably common, found 7 from about 100
I've found 2 2018s both high, small sd,
Funny thing yesterday I found 5 dimes, never found 1 before
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11/17/2018 3:49 pm
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Australia
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 Posted 11/19/2018  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hans g to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Schoza, any chance of placing one of you 1976 upsets in a 2x2 and taking a pic of each side? I have just had a quick look (turned them between my fingers) at 260 of the 1976s and found none. Just wondering if the rotation is so slight that I missed them.
Also interested to hear what you have found in the 1983.
Hans
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 Posted 11/23/2018  07:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schoza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heres the 83,

The font looks slightly different and the distance between the numbers aren't the same.
I will post a pic of 76 soon hans
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11/23/2018 07:47 am
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 Posted 11/23/2018  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah it does look like a different font.
I guess it wouldn't be surprising - the dies were hand-made for the longest time.
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Australia
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 Posted 11/24/2018  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Schoza to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
True MrT, that year 130 million coins were struck, I get the top coin was struck through and that as a result it has a feathered look but the top of the 3 was what made me put it out there, plus the distance between the 8&3 also made me think.
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