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5 Ounce America The Beautiful National Park Silver Quarters

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 Posted 01/14/2011  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They really cant charge too much more then they let the bullion people sell them for which was like 10% over spot if I remember correctly. Can you imagine the uproar from the bullion people if the were to 'profiteer' from there own release! Now they will have a 'special finish' and a fancy box so I could be all wrong.
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 Posted 01/14/2011  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add parkquarters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ebay auction prices are falling fast on these 2010 pucks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...EjRbbbw%253D

I read on PCGS forum from a poster that the 2010 sets will always command a higher premium because the 2011 sets will have a higher mintage than the 2010 sets

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 Posted 01/15/2011  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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They really cant charge too much more then they let the bullion people sell them for which was like 10% over spot if I remember correctly.

Sure they can. Like I said look at the percentage mark up of the W unc or the proof ASE's over the bullion versions that the distributors sell. The mint gets that mark up because they are "collectors" version and not just bullion. Same thing goes for the "collectors" version of the hockey pucks.
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 Posted 01/15/2011  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverFossil64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mint usually seems to have high mark ups on everything they sell directly. anyone know how many collectors sets they will make for 2010 coins? I think it was 33,000 sets of bullion ones.
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 Posted 01/15/2011  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally got to see them first hand at the F.U.N. show and I wasn't impressed. They are way too gawdy. I won't be collecting them, especially at those prices.

The ones that I seen where in NGC holders and were the size of a cherrypicker's guide! How in the world would you store them?
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 Posted 01/15/2011  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add parkquarters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two more ap's too begin sales shortly !

A-Mark Precious Metals

http://www.buyamericathebeautifulnow.com/

Coins-N-Things

http://atb.cntofma.com/

Fidelitrade

http://www.cointalk.com/attachment....d=1294273525

Out of the mints nine authorized purchasers how many of them havent even begun sales yet ?
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 Posted 01/15/2011  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks parkquarters. A-Mark Precious Metals is starting online sales on Tuesday, 01/18/2011, at 10:00am PT.

http://www.amark.com/
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 Posted 01/16/2011  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add parkquarters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A-Mark Precious Metals (Los Angeles) Gold, Silver, Platinum
Coins 'N Things (Massachusetts) Gold, Silver, Platinum
MTB (New York) Gold, Silver Platinum
Scotia Mocatta (New York) Gold, Silver, Platinum
American Precious Metals Exchange, Inc. (Oklahaoma) Silver
Dillon Gage Incorporated of Dallas (Texas) Silver
Prudential Securities Inc. (New York) Gold, Silver, Platinum
The Gold Center (Illinois) Silver
Jack Hunt Coin Broker (New York) Silver
Commerzbank (New York) Gold, Silver
Fidelitrade (Delaware) Silver


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Commerzbank (New York) Gold, Silver
Scotia Mocatta (New York) Gold, Silver, Platinum



http://www.coinzine.net/2010/12/fir...-purchasers/

http://mintnewsblog.blogspot.com/20...er-list.html

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 Posted 01/16/2011  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is really interesting. I feel like it's a horse race now. Who can get them in their hands the fastest and onto ebay first before the price drops!
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 Posted 01/16/2011  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add parkquarters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check the edge lettering before you send yours in to be graded there was a report of someone finding a variety error that one coin will trump all others in value !
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 Posted 01/17/2011  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bluemule31 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a problem with the prices they are fetching. I do, however, take exception to the "monopoly" that these AP's have on the mint. What if the mint actually thought about turning a profit and sold directly to the public? They could actually become (gulp) a profitable and efficient government entity!
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 Posted 01/17/2011  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainkurt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are already the only government agency that turns a profit and they are already planning on releasing collector versions to the public so...your fears have been realized bluemule!
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 Posted 01/17/2011  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add parkquarters to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never heard a word that prudential ever started sales and there voice mail says that all sales will be suspended indefinitely

I never heard a word that dillon gage ever started sales and his web- site says potentially sold out

Whats up with that ?

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http://www.coinzine.net/2011/01/mos...center-more/

http://coins.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_..._sop=16&ht=0

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 Posted 01/17/2011  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The ones that I seen where in NGC holders and were the size of a cherrypicker's guide! How in the world would you store them?

For those of you that hasn't seen them, here is a picture from CoinWorld that shows just how big they are

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 Posted 01/17/2011  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I do, however, take exception to the "monopoly" that these AP's have on the mint. What if the mint actually thought about turning a profit and sold directly to the public?

The AP's wer set up back in 1986 for selling the bullion eagles. Thy wanted the coins to have the widest possible distribution and the lowest possible cost. The idea of trying the have the mint handle the hundreds of thousands of orders with th constantly changing prices would have been a nightmare. (Don't believe me look at the 1 oz and 1/2 oz gold arts medallions the mint sold from 1980 - 1984. It was horrible.) And anyone who wants to become an AP may do so, all you have to do is meet the requirements.

As for the AP's having a monopoly on the hockey pucks, th mint had nothing to do with that. It was written into the law that the AP's would do the distribution. One of the things that caused problems was the mint dragging their feet on the project, and then their last minute decision to divert half the first years production into the "collectors" version that they could sell at a high profit (without legal authorization in my opinion.) So the high price of these sets is BECAUSE "the mint actually thought about turning a profit and sold directly to the public".
Gary Schmidt
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