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Pillar of the Community
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 Posted 05/04/2008  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jays-Dad - That is not a problem. Cayon's reference on Spanish issues covers all metals from the 600s to date and most types are illustrated. If you have pictures of the copper types I might be able to attribute them.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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 Posted 05/04/2008  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great to hear from you on this. I posted the pics in the following thread. I can scan each of them, but all I've got is a cheap digital camera so no good pictures.

http://goccf.com/t/29494
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 Posted 05/16/2008  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goodasgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Just in case anyone needs access to a few harder to get references on Spanish American coins I have quite a few in my Library. The best are:

Gilboy's "Columnarios" for the Pillar type Spanish American coins
Calbeto's "Compendium of the VIII Reales" Two volumes covers all mints


Hi, Bob ... looking to purchase the above two books if available.

Cheers, Les
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 Posted 05/16/2008  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Les, They are not for sale right now. Good luck in you hunt. I know a few collectors who are actively looking for that set. Bob
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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 Posted 05/23/2008  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's a cc of the Gilboy Columnarios on abebooks right now, but get out your wallet....$450!
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 05/24/2008  02:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goodasgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure a lot of money for a book alright. Just now thinking... Is it really worth that much? Can I live without it? And who'll maybe lend it to me?
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 Posted 05/26/2008  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goodasgold - Any book is not really needed unless you are planning to buy really RARE pieces or spend a lot on a number of common coins. Without a reference like this - you would be assured of buying a fake or passing up a true rarity in the Portrait series. I guarantee that. I am of course referring to any series where individual dies vary. Hubbed coins can be treated using a far less complex reference, but punched dies are too complex for a generic type text. The only other way is to collect pictures of 100's of coins and compare them for yourself.

My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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 Posted 05/31/2008  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goodasgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sound advice, Bob.

And does a 'rare date list' exist somewhere? I'm about to buy a 1764 Carolus III 8R that I'm told is fairly hard to find in this gVF cond.

Anyway, it's still a really nice looking coin.

Cheers,
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 Posted 05/31/2008  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no such "Rare date list" that I am aware of. Such a list would have to include photos of each die type to be of any real value and to avoid alterations and counterfeits. Then when you add condition to the mix of rarity, you are looking for a text that has not yet been produced. I don't even know anyone who is attempting that yet.

Back to 1823 (for Mexican 8Rs only) there is in fact a condition rarity listing in addition to the overall rarity by type. Dunigan made that attempt in "Resplandores", but it is only an approximation based on his and Parker's experience. Some people question the accuracy of that data, but personally I find it helpful.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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 Posted 06/20/2008  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Swamperbob:
Noticed that you have an interest in counterfeit coins. Did you happen to follow the German-20Mark thread? I still have not been able to determine origin of said coin.
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 Posted 07/02/2008  03:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djf1326invest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello folks,

Just me again. I was just wondering, is there any reference material about Chinese Chopmark coins; especially values? Curious minds want to know.

Thankx

GOD Bless

David
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 Posted 07/02/2008  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Goodasgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi djf1326invest

Only one I know about worth having is CHOPMARKS by FM Rose, but makes no real mention of values.

cheers, Les
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 Posted 09/05/2009  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reccomended Resource for Austrian Talers/Minors:

Osterreichische Munzpragungen 1519-1938 - (2 Volume Set)
by V. Miller zu Aichholtz, A. Loehr, and E. Holzmair
General Information:

Author: V. Miller zu Aichholtz, A. Loehr, and E. Holzmair

Edition: Original 1981 version

Bound: Hard Cover 2 volume set

Pages: Vol. #1 has 350 pages. Vol. #2 has 14 pages plus 56 pages of oversized photo plates

Illustrated: Photo Plates

Book Size: 11" H x 15" W

ISBN: 0-86723-000-2

Comments:

Osterreichische Munzpragungen 1519-1938 by V. Miller zu Aichholtz, A. Loehr, and E. Holzmair, on Austrian-Hungarian Coinage is in German Text but easy to use.

Two monumental very large size volumes (approximately 11" x 15") each.

Volume #1 includes a year by year detailed cataloging of all of the coinage of the Hapsburg's. The Hapsburg's left in 1918 but the book goes up to 1938 when Hitler annexed Austria.

Volume #1 has 350 pages.

Volume #2 has the plates description plus 55 full oversized photo plates of coins and paper money, with over 2000 illustrations. A must for the collector of coins from Austria, Hungary, Talers, minor coinages, etc.

Beautifully bound in red and gray cloth, embossed with the Royal Coat of Arms.






Edited by Zohar444
09/05/2009 8:27 pm
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 Posted 12/05/2009  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gallienus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I saw your reference listing on Gilboy's Columnarios. I was wondering if you where to procure a reasonably priced copy? I like Pillars very much but only have the extremely common 1756 & 59 Mo 8R's as well as a few minors. Is this book in English? Does it provide a rarity scale or relative pricing?
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 Posted 12/05/2009  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The book is a high quality reference with a scale of rarity - not prices. That is the best because prices fluctuate so much. The information is unlikely to change much (unless a big hoard is discovered). It is great for varieties and for diagnosing forgeries. The price new is $125. I have not see a used copy for sale yet. I suspect that most collectors would find it a valuable reference and KEEP it. Estate sales are possible but I know quite a few people looking.
My book on Counterfeit Portrait 8Rs is available from Amazon http://ccfgo.com/TheUnrealReales or from me directly if you want it signed.
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