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 Posted 03/29/2014  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm trying come up with a list of the F15 privy coins from 2011-2013.

I couldn't find much info out there on the internet but this is what I came up with and I'm not sure how accurate it is.

If you see anything on my list that doesn't look right let me know.

After much thought I'm thinking about starting to collect just the privy coins from 2011-2013.


2011 F15 privy coins

1. 2011 F15 Andorra - European Eagle (with Fab15 Privy Mark)
2. 2011 F15 Australia - Koala Bear (with Berlin Privy Mark)
3. 2011 F15 Australia - Silver Kangaroo at Sunset (with Fab15 Privy Mark)
4. 2011 F15 Canadian Silver Maple Leaf (with Fab15 Privy Mark)
5. 2011 F15 Rwanda - African Silver Ounce - Zebra (with Fab15 Privy Mark)


2012 F15 privy coins

1. 2012 Cameron Cross River Gorilla f15 Proof 0.925
2. 2012 Australia Kangaroo At Sunset f15 Brilliant Uncirculated
3. 2012 Cook Islands Maori f15 Proof
4. 2012 Rwanda Rhino f15 Brilliant Uncirculated
5. 2012 Andorra Golden Eagle f15 Proof
5. 2012 Canadian Maple leaf F15 privy
6. 2012 Australia Kangaroo Outback F15 privy



2013 F15 Privy Coins


1. 2013 F15 Canada - Silver Maple Leaf
2. 2013 F15 Republic of Rwanda - African Silver Ounce - Cheetah
3. 2013 F15 Ukraine - Archangel Michael
4. 2013 F15 Australia - Kangaroo in Outback
5. 2013 F15 Belarus (Weissrussland) Ballerina
6. 2013 F15 Andorra - Aguila Daurada
7. 2013 F15 Argentina 5 Pesos Tango
8. 2013 F15 Malta Pinto de Fonseca

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 Posted 03/29/2014  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin:

2. 2011 F15 Australia - Koala Bear (with Berlin Privy Mark)

It might be part as Fab15 subscription, but does not have F15 Privy Mark. "Berlin" Privy mark - this is Berlin sign (i suppose) - Lion standing. So basically - it just one of Privy marks, one of many.

I have a couple of 2012 F15 Privys...and I replaced them. So basically, I ready to sell them for 2/3 of their issue price...just to give you indicator, that some of them not so "rare" or exclusive.

These - contact, if you need them.
1. 2012 Cameron Cross River Gorilla f15 Proof 0.925
4. 2012 Rwanda Rhino f15 Brilliant Uncirculated

3. 2012 Cook Islands Maori f15 Proof - this the "special case", for me - this is the "best of 2012 Fab1s"

Sorry, was busy yesterday...anyway, I'll try to do this weekend the pictures.
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 Posted 03/29/2014  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@sherwooddavid

Not that I want to make things complicated for you to decide... but, not sure if you are aware of, but before F15, there was F12 privy, I think from 2007-2009, until they expanded to F15.

Coin collection hobby is so full of options :P

Anyway, They are more expensive as mintage was lower, the 2007 Maple Leaf has a mintage of 5,000 and was in "reverse proof" finish, like usual other privys and is selling over 200$ now.

I will personally concentrate in the same period as you mentioned, 2011-2013.
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 Posted 03/29/2014  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TIPIT

Yeah I read that somewhere and thought I would start with 2011-2013 then go after 2007-2010. Should keep me busy for a while ...its still cheaper than my other watch collecting hobby...at least I hope it is !lol

Do you know if the F15 started in 2010 or still F12 ?

I'm finding it really hard to find any history on the F12 & F15 and what coins are included each year.

Also wondering if there will be a F15 in 2014 ?
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 Posted 03/29/2014  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Do you know if the F15 started in 2010 or still F12 ?


Found the answer in this thread.

Early sets (2007-2009) were F12 as they only comprised 12 coins. For 2010-2012 it was increased to 15 coins. Up to 2011 the mintage was only 5,000 making these hard/expensive to find on the resale market. In 2012 the mintage was increased to 10,000. I believe only the Canadian SML and Australian Kangaroo were modified with the privy mark for these sets and the rest of the coins in the sets were just the regular issue. I'm not sure if that's changed for the 2012 set.
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 Posted 03/29/2014  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I have a couple of 2012 F15 Privys...and I replaced them. So basically, I ready to sell them for 2/3 of their issue price...just to give you indicator, that some of them not so "rare" or exclusive.

These - contact, if you need them.
1. 2012 Cameron Cross River Gorilla f15 Proof 0.925
4. 2012 Rwanda Rhino f15 Brilliant Uncirculated

3. 2012 Cook Islands Maori f15 Proof - this the "special case", for me - this is the "best of 2012 Fab1s"


Silveroid, At this point I need everything ! lol

If you want to send me a PM and give me a price to purchase all 3 that would be great. Thanks
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 Posted 03/29/2014  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If you want to send me a PM


You need to allow to send you messages.
Or it depends on the amount of your posts...
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 Posted 03/29/2014  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If you want to send me a PM


You need to allow to send you messages.
Or it depends on the amount of your posts...
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 Posted 03/30/2014  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about that Silveroid, I just turned it on in my profile. You should be able to PM me now.
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 Posted 03/30/2014  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know what a slabbed 2013 F15 Maple Leaf is worth in MS69? I rarely see slabbed F15 coins for sale.
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 Posted 03/30/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Does anyone know what a slabbed 2013 F15 Maple Leaf is worth in MS69? I rarely see slabbed F15 coins for sale.


As I see, for usual "raw" F15 SML, people asking ~$120.
The grade MS69 does not contribute a speciality to this coin, unlike the MS70, that says, that the coins is "perfect". But some people collects graded bullions - good for storage due to universal dimensions of the slab.
In bottom line - I would avoid slabbed one, but if I need to buy, so will not pay more then $10 on top of the price.
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 Posted 03/30/2014  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is one guy trying to sell it's 2013 NGC graded "SP-68".
Unsold listed for 3 weeks at 132$, a few days at 121$ and is now listed for starting bid 110$ (99USD) with no bid yet. Obviously, 68 is not that good for a 2013 brand new coin.

I don't like slabbed coin personally, even less when there is a nice box for the collection and you cannot put them into it. I made the "mistake" of buying my so-waited-for 10th anniversary 1989 tri-metal Maple Leaf full set (1oz of platinum, gold, and silver in proof finish) in slabbed coins... the set is very nice, the box too and I was waiting to buy this one for years. And then I bought the slabbed one because it was a deal but cannot put them into the nice box.

Anyway... it's personal preference.
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03/30/2014 11:39 am
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 Posted 03/30/2014  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Not that I want to make things complicated for you to decide... but, not sure if you are aware of, but before F15, there was F12 privy, I think from 2007-2009, until they expanded to F15.

@ TIPIT

I'm just trying to find the F12/F15 privy coins from 2007-2010 and I don't think there are that many...at least I can't find them.
I've added these ones to my list.

Here's what I came up with :


2007 F12 privy coins :

1. 2007 F12 Maple Leaf


2008 F12 privy coins :

1. 2008 F12 Maple Leaf
2. 2008 Australian koala has an f12 privy ?


2009 F12 privy coins :

1. 2009 F12 Maple Leaf
2. 2009 F12 silver Kangaroo at Sunset in BU and Proof F12 privy mark
3. 2009 Rwanda Elefant Privy F12 Fabulous 12 1 Unze Silber ST BU RAR


2010 F15 privy coins :

1. 2010 F15 Maple Leaf
2. 2010 Kangaroo at Sunset Proof Coin with the F 15 Privy Mark
3. 2010 Rwanda Leo / Lion Privy F15 Fabulous 15 1 ounces silver ST /
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 Posted 03/30/2014  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
2. 2008 Australian koala has an f12 privy ?


yes, this is one exists...single F15 Privy Koala - extremely rare (never saw it on eBay).


Quote:
2. 2010 Kangaroo at Sunset Proof Coin with the F 15 Privy Mark


As I remember this coin issued in 2010 or 2011 (or both).
One of the most beautiful coins, that RAM (Royal Australian Mint) issued. There are 2 variations - BU and Proof. BU came with RCM F15 subscription - is nice, but the Proof version looks better.
"Must to have" coin (IMO), I even do not include it in my F15 set, cause I think, it one level above.
Even according the price - could be found on eBay for $125-$150.
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 Posted 03/31/2014  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I promised previously, spent some time in order to show, how the 2012 F15 RCM set can be expanded / upgraded (all just IMO).

[Skip the entire "story" and go to the bottom for the pictures]

So, initially being inspired by different all-over-the-world bullion coins, I liked the idea to have the RCM set, since it presented good and looked as a "solid" item. Except this, I knew that this purchase will boost my RCM status directly towards MC.
In the short words, everything was OK, till I finally disagreed to receive nice packaged base bullion coins for the triple price of the silver spot. I canceled the sub after 8-th coin (receiving .925 silver was already too much for my patience).

And then I decided about mine own F15 on the base of RCM collection.
Main criteria's:
• Include 15 coins only to utilize RCM box
• Do not exclude any of major recognizable world bullion
• As much as possible to have "Proof" / "Proof Like " finish
• The new coins, which will replace unwanted, should be priced ~$100 ($120 max in exceptional case).
• As much as possible to "stick" to year 2012 (design or price may cause exceptions).
• Replace square (nice looking) to air-tite capsules (in my opinion " the round capsules much more accurate, they visually allow to "feel" the coin).

Here we go:
1. 2012 F15 Privy SML (Reverse Proof) " from RCM set
2. 2012 Chinese Panda (Proof like) " from RCM set
3. 2012 ASE (Proof)
4. 2012 Britannia (Proof) (the last one with .958 purity)
5. 2012 Austria Philharmonics (BU) " from RCM set
6. 2011 Mexican Libertad (Proof)
7. 2012 Australian Koala (Proof Like)
8. 2012 Rwanda Rhino F15 Privy (BU) " from RCM set - currently in my collection, but since I have enough of "Africa coins", and they nicer than this one " will be replaced.
9. 2012 Gabon Elephant (Antique Finish)
10. 2012 Armenia Noah's Arch (Proof)
11. 2008 New Zealand Kiwi (Proof)
12. 2012 Isle Of Man " The Manx Cat with Kitten (Proof)
13. 2012 Fiji Taku Turtle (Proof Like)
14. 2012 Somalian Elephant (Proof Like)
15. 2012 F15 Privy Cook Islands (Proof)

And here, the pictures:









Gabon Elephant - the series started in 2012, so this is the first in series.





Armenia Noahs' Arch - this is the Proof (and not Proof Like coin), the difference - the Serial Number craved on the edge of the coin and matches with the paper COA number:





Somalia Elephant - couldn't miss the coin from this series, started in 2004 (?), the mintage is un-known, but the coins very well done:





2008 New Zealand Kiwi:
Technically, this coin minted by German Mint, but like the Australian Kangaroo, the "Kiwi" is NZ "Flagship" coin. I didn't like the 2012 design (part of Kiwi Treasures series), and choose the 2008 one.





IOM "Kat" series minted by Pobjoy Mint, started from 1988. As a cat lover - couldn't miss this coin:





Fiji Taku coin:
Minted by NZ mint, but since it has Fiji denomination, I refer to it as Fiji coin. Nice theme, Proof Like finish





Cook Islands Tiki Coin:
Unique in it's design (well, actually designed like NZ "Maori" series - I like and collect it) was the last coin in the set. Since I canceled the subscription, I bought it in separate, later. Didn't see this coin nowhere, except in this F15 RCM set:





F15 RCM set coins that I didn't include:

F15 Cross River Gorilla



F15 Rwanda Rhino - already posted the picture.


COA of the collection:
As you see, the set's COA (general one) is numbered, but the RCM's COA for single coins " have the description (these COA issued by RCM and not minting Mint):


General set COA (left) and Example of Single coin COA (in the right):




The target remains, before I can say, that the Collection is "done":
1. Replace the Rwanda Rhino coin - I will get the 2012 Greenland 1oz .999 silver coin
2. when the last coin will be replaced, I will remove square capsules and put air-tites for all the coins, to give the same look to all.
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