1912-S Nickel - Yet Another Ebay Counterfeit

Just back from the ebay OPEN , the focus for ebay in the collectibles
field right now is Trading Cards .
They have no real head of a Coins department per se.
I had a discussion with one of the Collectibles team and it went
in one ear out the other .
They could give a tinkers lick about the Counterfeit Coins out there '
Sorry , laddies you is on yer own when it concerns counterfeit coins
On ebay!

Lots of bad mojo from this seller discussed in previous threads:

https://goccf.com/t/387874
https://goccf.com/t/443582

This dealer is actually worse than you think. This coin sold on 8/7. They have a "dealer" account ( ebay feedback of 7306) place a max bid and then the scam account ( ebay feedback of 8462) bids it up over a period of time up until auction end hoping to sucker someone in. On the 8/7 auction, they almost caught a fish that dropped a bid of $1,578 with a little over a minute left before auction end. 8462 placed another bid 12 seconds later but with a minute left hoping to draw a few more dollars out of the fish, but they didn't go for it. Scammer took the coin for $1,603.

The next day, 8/8, the coin was then put up for a 10 day auction again following the same drill. This time the dealer had feedback of 56,919, max bid of $1,500 and again scammer 8462 bid it up but no fish jumped in. Auction closed at $1,508.

Below are screenshots of the bid action near the end of each auction.

Round three, will Coins & Cards find a sucker on ebay. Same scam bidder 8466, so now just waiting for another dueling "dealer" bidder working in concert to try and create interest and draw in the fish.

Wow. You guys opened my eyes to so many things I've not considered. First, while I have seen this seller's listings in the past I had not paid attention to what was actually listed or the frequency, especially the key and semi-key dates. The second take away was the obvious use of dealer participants (most likely paid for their service) driving up the price. Just glad that I have not bought from them, nor would I ever. Not worth the risk for sure. So much thanks for this enlightenment!

On a final note, I looked at a 1912s PCGS AU50 for $1,400 at last Fall's PAN show but opted for the '12d in AU58 instead. So it's incredible to me seeing what people are throwing at raw key dates hoping for the best.

Counterfeiters

So, this coin is now on its sixth listing. I decided to send a rather extensive report to ebay, they may do nothing, but this dealer is trash. They employ shill bidding on nearly all of their listing. At least their rating has taken a hit recently.

As I understand it, shill bidding, where the seller conducting the auction uses fake bidders, is illegal. Not to mention the fake mint mark. Here are the pics I included in the report.

And yes, I had nothing better to do tonight, and the wife is out of town!

how many times is going to sell that coin..