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catman
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How can I help support Coin Community?
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longnine009
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Mike
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national dealer
Pillar Of The Community
USA
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 Posted 08/04/2005 11:33 am
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Just 1 more example of why I no longer support the ANA.
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robocp
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Posted 08/20/2005 3:55 pm
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Yes I agree. The original idea of the ANA was a good one, but anymore. It just is a money machine,that has many financial interest out there
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Stujoe
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USA
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Posted 08/20/2005 4:03 pm
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I read something somewhere (isn't that always the case  ) of a comment that the ANA grading book is not setting the standard but rather documenting the standard in use in the marketplace.
I wish I could remember the source and the attribution of that statement. I want to say it came from someone at the ANA but I could be wrong so I won't say that. 
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robocp
Valued Member
USA
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Posted 08/20/2005 4:06 pm
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In addition, How can the standard be changed, and who is the authority. Certainly not the ANA. And once the change is made, What happen's to all the PCGS and NGC item's that are now overgraded, as a result. What about the investor's that paid top $ for these item's, and now they are overgraded, and decreasing in value.
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national dealer
Pillar Of The Community
USA
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Posted 08/20/2005 4:27 pm
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Originally posted by Stujoe
I read something somewhere (isn't that always the case ) of a comment that the ANA grading book is not setting the standard but rather documenting the standard in use in the marketplace.
The ANA made that announcement. However, since this is the same group that SELLS its endorsement to the highest bidder, what more can you expect. The Market does not need grades to adjust prices. Coins CANNOT get better with age. They are whatever grade, and the market dictates its value. By "reissuing" grades it only goes to show how poor the standards are to begin with.
The ANA has NO HOPE of directing the hobby, and from all appearances they have NO DESIRE. They simply follow the crowd like lemmings. I am so embarrassed that I ever allowed myself to be associated with these "wannabe politicians".
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longnine009
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longnine009
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Stujoe
Valued Member
USA
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Posted 08/20/2005 10:09 pm
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Careful...The ANA and their Director have recently filed a lawsuit. I'm not sure what 'intentional infliction of emotional distress by outrageous conduct' is but, after my experiences with the US legal system, I am taking no chances.
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catman
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Stujoe
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Posted 08/20/2005 11:51 pm
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Originally posted by catman
I think we are allowed to express our personal opinion without the fear of a lawsuit. It comes under freedom of speech. As long as its our personal opinion.
No comment.
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robocp
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crystalk64
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national dealer
Pillar Of The Community
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Posted 08/21/2005 08:46 am
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Originally posted by Stujoe
Careful...The ANA and their Director have recently filed a lawsuit.
Ah the American way. There is a public campaign currently running about the American Justice System, trying to promote jury trials. According to the advertisement, 95% of all jury trials are in the United States. The PRIDE of the world the ad states.
In what other system can you blame all of your problems on someone else. Ride your bicycle on the road at night, and then file a lawsuit against the bike manufacturer when you get run over.
Hit a light pole while drinking and driving, then file a lawsuit against the electric company.
Now, if the ANA execs are reading, here is why I WILL NOT support you.
ANA sells endorsement to NGC
ANA sells endorsement to PNG
ANA partners with Ebay
ANA wants to sell membership names, addresses, collecting habits
Why are you not standing up for grading standards?
Why are you not standing up for grading the grading companies?
Why are you not making a stand against fraudulant transactions on Ebay?
Why are you not making a concentrated effort to see why so many members are leaving your organization?
In the end, I have wasted enough of my time and effort hoping that the ANA would stand up and lead this hobby. Talk is cheap.
Now it appears that the ANA is following the example of the lowest tier grading companies. The community speaks out with "real" concerns and gets hit with lawsuits? Shame on you!
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I guess we'll have to wait for some details on this. If in fact they ever come out. In the mean time I am so outta there I might cancel my membership instead of waiting for it to expire. They've gone too far this time. 
