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pattiewhack
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 Posted 10/02/2007  11:46 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Here is a nice find my Dad (I cant afford these!) picked up on eBay; ten Cents, 1947ML, graded by PCGS Specimen-67. Tied for finest known and fully brilliant with a Heavy Cameo contrast.

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 Posted 10/02/2007  11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Specimen?
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 Posted 10/03/2007  12:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup.
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 Posted 10/03/2007  12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Was looking for more then a "yep"

What exactly is a specimen? Is it like a trial strike? Never seen one slabbed before.
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 Posted 10/03/2007  12:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hehe. Ok I wasn't exactly sure what you meant so I answered with the same amount of words that you asked with! Well up here they were trials and some were sold to the general public as well, especially with events like the first coins made at the Ottawa mint in 1908 and in specimen sets in the early part of the 1900's, which can be incredibly expensive. I am not sure if this particular coin was sold by the mint to a collector or if it was a trial strike. At any rate, there are not many specimen coins pre-1950 out there, especially this nice.
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 Posted 10/03/2007  12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one from my own collection, not my dads:

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Prince Edward Island (before it joined Canadian Confederation in 1871) penny Graded ICCS SP-60.

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 Posted 10/03/2007  08:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin! Thanks for the pic! I don't have too much experience with Canadian coinage but I do know enough to recognize a beautiful coin when I see one. Thanks again for the post and explanation.
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 Posted 10/03/2007  08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if I am not mistaken their specimen is like our commemorative (atleast from what I have been able to find on eBay). I have seen some Gold coins with SP designation from PCGS with a mintage of 4,000+ coins which would put it about like most of our Gold Commems, and they can be commemorating anything from first series struck to last series struck. I have seen the last Franc (before the euro) designated as SP by PCGS Here it is so atleast that is my understanding what their Specimen is. I have seen US notes have SPECIMEN on them but never a US coin
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 Posted 10/03/2007  10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, I'm confused too.
In Oz, "specimen" on a note means "no value; not legal tender". I've never heard the word applied to a coin.
Is this 10-cent different from other 10-cent coins ?
Were there any other 10-cent coins in 1947 ?
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 Posted 10/03/2007  6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes there are quite a few regular dimes of the 1947 ML (Maple Leaf: these coins were actually made in 1948 but the new dies without "ET IND IMP" -as India got their Independence that year so "ET IND IMP" was no longer needed- had not arrived from the Royal Mint in England, so the mint engravers put a Maple Leaf beside the date on the dies until the new dies arrived)
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 Posted 10/04/2007  11:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Firecom911 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen only one US "SPECIMEN" coin...an 1897 Morgan dollar.
At cursory glance your mind says "proof" but it's not.
The coin was struck up like a proof coin...very sharp devices. But the fields were totally lusterless...no mirrors, no matte, no frost. Just absolutely slick and dull.
I can't imagine their purpose, unless, as already mentioned, they were trial strikes.
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 Posted 10/28/2007  2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A specimen set , as far as the Canadian mint is concerned, is a coin that was prepared with specially polished dies .... These coins were sold as sets. So more than likely, this coin was part of a set at some time, and separated, or it was manufactured as a proof, but has very high quality thus resembling a specimen

in these days, the fields are dull with a brilliant images such as this penny, ...the background is a flat but shinny coper colour, but the image is highly polished

the coin below is currently in a specimen case and the picture is taken through a microscope, and through a plastic case, so the pic is not the best, but these coins are flawless and minted in a limited number for this year 40 000

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 Posted 10/28/2007  4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't care if it's a 'petri dish test tube dime' that's a beautiful coin. Thanks for sharing pictures.

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 Posted 10/28/2007  5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree , it is a beautiful dime :)

congrats to you and your father
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 Posted 10/28/2007  5:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After checking my books, there was a 1947ML specimen set sold by Canadian mint,, this set included a 1-5-10-25-50- and 1.00 coins.

So this coin was probably from a set that sometime ago was broken up,

This complete set is now valued at $13.500 dollars ( this price is for both the straight 7 and the curved 7 varieties

so in short, excellent find
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 Posted 10/28/2007  6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for all the info!
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