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RKKay
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Posted 10/31/2005  1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add RKKay to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

Each of these $50 patterns, designed by William Barber, is unique in gold. The
reverse is very similar to that which appeared on the double eagle of the time. They
were struck in response to demand by bankers and merchants in San Francisco
(originally expressed in 1854) for large denomination coins to make quick counting
easier. These amazing pieces were once in the possession of William Woodin. A brief
discussion can be found at the
Society of US Pattern Collectors websitehttp://store.yahoo.com/uspatterns/j1548p1721.html.
Photos courtesy of National Numismatic Collection, Smithsonian Institution



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Becky
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Posted 10/31/2005  2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Becky to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

WOW, thanks for sharing, it was an interesting read, and those patterns are breathtaking!

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catman
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Posted 10/31/2005  2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I will take two if your giving them away. Thanks for the photos.

catman


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ageka
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Posted 10/31/2005  2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Why are they called half unions ?
Are there full unions too ?


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Morgan Fred
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Posted 10/31/2005  6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by catman

I will take two if your giving them away. Thanks for the photos.

catman



I am certain lim and Mike would appreciate it if one of these became Option 7 in the Xmas/New Years Giveaway.

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national dealer
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Posted 11/01/2005  10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

RKKay,

It is such a pleasure to have you on this board.

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Posted 11/01/2005  1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Rick, that's such a coincidence. I just saw these in one of my books when I was looking for something else and thought they seemed really interesting. Thanks for posting it here!


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Posted 11/01/2005  4:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by ageka

Why are they called half unions ?
Are there full unions too ?


I have looked for the last day or so, and haven't come up with the answer to your question. I'm betting someone around here knows and just hasn't taken the time to post the answer.

I'll keep looking!

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ageka
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Posted 11/01/2005  5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thank you old dan


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I am pretty sure I saw one of the copper examples in the Bass Collection at the ANA Museum in Colorado Springs this past summer.

http://www.harrybassfoundation.org/....asp?id=6137


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Posted 11/01/2005  7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

As far as I know, there are no full Unions. The Half Union pattern is for a $50 gold piece which would have been the highest denomination ever minted by the US at that time.


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RKKay
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Posted 11/03/2005  11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RKKay to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by OldDan

quote:
Originally posted by ageka

Why are they called half unions ?
Are there full unions too ?


I have looked for the last day or so, and haven't come up with the answer to your question. I'm betting someone around here knows and just hasn't taken the time to post the answer.

I'll keep looking!


I have to check into it, but it was my understanding there was thought given to a $100 Union, ergo the Half Union name.

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RKKay
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Posted 11/03/2005  11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RKKay to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by Susanlynn9

Rick, that's such a coincidence. I just saw these in one of my books when I was looking for something else and thought they seemed really interesting. Thanks for posting it here!



It's also funny that I got the new Judd book yesterday, and Smythe has an ad with Andy Lustig holding the Half Unions.

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RKKay
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Posted 11/03/2005  11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RKKay to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

RKKay,

It is such a pleasure to have you on this board.



It's great to be here, even if I am sporadic with my appearances.

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